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Re:FBI tells lawmakers it can't access Dayton gunman's phone by ineedasername on Saturday August 10, 2019 @10:58AM (#20662395)
Sure, but your low gun violence didn't just happen. People used to have guns, they liked their guns, but there were shootings. People including politicians realized they could do something about it. Some gun owners hated that, but shootings all but stopped. You're really the example that all "guns don't kill people" arguers hate having to try and explain away.
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Re:FBI tells lawmakers it can't access Dayton gunman's phone by whatthesmack on Saturday August 10, 2019 @11:50AM (#20662713)
They didn’t “all but stop”. They’ve continued [1]. Why keep repeating The Australia Lie that anti-gun people love touting?

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Austral...

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Re:FBI tells lawmakers it can't access Dayton gunman's phone by kyralis on Saturday August 10, 2019 @12:35PM (#20663013)
It's worth pointing out that quoting this list is a little disingenuous. Considering only items on the list starting in 2000, only a third (8) appear to have involved firearms.
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Re:FBI tells lawmakers it can't access Dayton gunman's phone by ehnto on Sunday August 11, 2019 @12:49AM (#20666296)
Did you even read that list? That list only helps the point. We haven't had a public mass shooting in decades. The more recent incidents have been arson, car attacks, or murders of people known to eachother, and they have had significantly lower impacts.
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Re:FBI tells lawmakers it can't access Dayton gunman's phone by ineedasername on Saturday August 10, 2019 @01:37PM (#20663423)
Because it's true. Whatever bad things have happened since, their per capital gun death and murder rate have dropped.
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Re:FBI tells lawmakers it can't access Dayton gunman's phone by ehnto on Sunday August 11, 2019 @12:45AM (#20666284)
Of course, my point was just that it had nothing to do with encryption or the recent laws subverting encryption in Australia. It's worth noting, because you can be sure we will be used as an example to try and push these kinds of laws in other countries.
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Re:FBI tells lawmakers it can't access Dayton gunman's phone by torified on Monday August 12, 2019 @02:08AM (#20672857)
On the plus side, all the IT jobs we're losing here in Australia might come back when the US starts routing all their traffic through here so they can spy on US citizens!
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