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Re:FBI tells lawmakers it can't access Dayton gunman's phone by viraptor on Saturday August 10, 2019 @08:00AM (#20661575)
> Chinese and Russian governments already got access to every local device, even from Apple itself,

We'll really need sources for claims like that...

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Re:FBI tells lawmakers it can't access Dayton gunman's phone by yyyk on Saturday August 10, 2019 @08:33AM (#20661694)
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/24/apple-moves-to-store-icloud-...

* Nearly all iPhone users use iCloud.

* If obeying 'local laws' is enough for Apple to allow external access to iCloud, the same logic must apply to the iPhone.

* Note that Apple refused similar requests by American courts.

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Re:FBI tells lawmakers it can't access Dayton gunman's phone by asveikau on Saturday August 10, 2019 @11:38AM (#20662631)
I really doubt nearly all iPhone users use iCloud. The ones on Hacker News might. I think a regular person would just shrug at prompts to set it up.

I feel like most times I hear iCloud mentioned by non techies they are confused about what it is. Like when their storage is out and they get nagged about it.

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Re:FBI tells lawmakers it can't access Dayton gunman's phone by ineedasername on Saturday August 10, 2019 @10:59AM (#20662402)
That's a logical deduction, which might be true! But it also might not.
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