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Re:Uber Posts $5.2B Loss and Slowest Ever Growth Rate by toomuchtodo on Thursday August 08, 2019 @05:04PM (#20648742)
It's time to stop assuming startups are the solution to poor public policy. This is a thread topic in itself, but I cannot let the assertion stand ("any job is better than no job, what are you going to do about it?").
Re:Uber Posts $5.2B Loss and Slowest Ever Growth Rate by TAForObvReasons on Thursday August 08, 2019 @05:13PM (#20648849)
You're on a site where a large number of people are either running their own startups, employed by other startups or thinking about building their own startup. Shouldn't be surprised that many people here believe that startups are a panacea
Re:Uber Posts $5.2B Loss and Slowest Ever Growth Rate by toomuchtodo on Thursday August 08, 2019 @05:15PM (#20648865)
One mustn't be from the village to state the emperor has no clothes. Lots of smart people here, people who could be putting their effort into something with more leverage and impact.

In the words of Toni Morrison (who recently left us): “When you get these jobs that you have been so brilliantly trained for, just remember that your real job is that if you are free, you need to free somebody else. If you have some power, then your job is to empower somebody else.”

Re:Uber Posts $5.2B Loss and Slowest Ever Growth Rate by eloff on Thursday August 08, 2019 @05:06PM (#20648767)
On the contrary, it's better to do something as in a startup, than to complain about public policy. When your system is broken, try to fix it, when that fails, workaround it.
Re:Uber Posts $5.2B Loss and Slowest Ever Growth Rate by NikolaNovak on Thursday August 08, 2019 @05:18PM (#20648887)
But... it's an extremely specific viewpoint that Startup / Technology solution is the way to fix broken system.

For vast majority of people, the viewpoint would be that elected leaders making the "correct" decisions/rules (whatever we decide those are) is the actual long-term, proper fix. Technology is technology, it's a tool; and societal norms, rules, and regulations guide or decide how we use those tools.

Re:Uber Posts $5.2B Loss and Slowest Ever Growth Rate by eloff on Thursday August 08, 2019 @05:33PM (#20649030)
In a perfect world sure. But doing nothing while waiting for a perfect world is far worse than fixing the problem at the wrong level.
Re:Uber Posts $5.2B Loss and Slowest Ever Growth Rate by Ar-Curunir on Thursday August 08, 2019 @05:21PM (#20648915)
Startups, and specifically VC culture, do not have aligned incentives with fixing society; in the end, their aim is to make money, not improve society.
Re:Uber Posts $5.2B Loss and Slowest Ever Growth Rate by eloff on Thursday August 08, 2019 @05:37PM (#20649068)
Yes. But most every company makes the world a better place in a way. People pay less for products and services than they get in value - otherwise they wouldn't pay. So everyone ends up better off. There are things like negative externalities that complicate the picture.

In the specific case of uber, people benefit hugely from the service over the old way of how taxis worked (I know, I live in a place where ride sharing is illegal.) Uber's drivers can be thought of as exploited, but they're all there willingly, so I don't buy that for the most part. I've met so many drivers doing it parttime, entrepreneurs, students, retirees. They're better off for having options in general. Nobody is putting a gun to their heads.