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Re:Why is modern web development so complicated? by fma on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @04:39PM (#20638749)
Backend dev here. I tried to create a simple Angular app. I got into some kind of dependency hell on something simple. Going from Angular 7 to 8 broke some junk? Then trying to get Angular Bootstrap to work was hellish as well, especially when some kind of polyfills junk screwed up for IE.

Ended up just linking to it directly to the jquery and bootstrap CDN...

It's been a long time since I did any kind of major front end work. I think it will stay that way. I don't do enough work with it long enough to really "get it" and retain it.

Re:Why is modern web development so complicated? by djstein on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @06:44PM (#20639997)
sorry you felt that way.unfortunately you dealt with the shit-show that is Angular + TypeScript, which is not beginner friendly AT ALL. I would ask you try using create-react-app, https://facebook.github.io/create-react-app/, and drop jQuery. JS is really awesome now and everything that was "in" jQuery can be achieved through standard library.
Re:Why is modern web development so complicated? by vcanales on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @05:25PM (#20639272)
Well, choosing the right tool for the job is part of being any kind of developer. If you could solve the problem with no framework/lib/state manager, why go that way? The fact that those tools exist doesn't mean you _have_ to use them.
Re:Why is modern web development so complicated? by icholy on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @08:33PM (#20640724)
The problem is that there are 100 different tools and they're all hot garbage.
Re:Why is modern web development so complicated? by PunchTornado on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @05:24PM (#20639259)
good, just leave the complex angular stuff for the frontend dev, the real engineers.