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Re:Why is modern web development so complicated? by avgDev on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @04:29PM (#20638628)
I agree as I build some terrible applications in .Net MVC, which is a decent framework. I think you have to build shit software not to build shit software.

First, professional web app I developed 3 years ago is still being build upon now. Even though it is pure garbage and I hate touching it, because I "made it work". As I gained experience and got burned because I did something a certain way I slowly but surely looked for alternative approaches.

Now 3 years later, I'm building an app with layered architecture, proper separation of concerns, dependency injection. Plus, before I start hammering code away, I think about what is the number 1 priority for a piece of code, am I gonna use it once and forget it? Will I use it all the time? Then, proceed accordingly.

Re:Why is modern web development so complicated? by JohnBooty on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @06:11PM (#20639709)

   I think about what is the number 1 priority for a piece of code, am I gonna use it once and forget it? Will I use it all the time?
I've gone in the opposite direction in my career.

Overbuilding the initial version of something for a bunch of anticipated (rather than actual use/failure scenarios) is something I now work very hard to avoid.

The key IMHO is really being nimble enough to extract and/or refactor and/or refine as soon as it is needed. Not before, not after.

"Overly robust" code is actually a huge problem sometimes. All that unused code is in there, giving the appearance of being robust, but is not actually battle-tested....

Re:Why is modern web development so complicated? by ct520 on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @04:34PM (#20638700)
" am I gonna use it once and forget it? " Always comes back to bite me in the a$$. Also taking over projects that were built this way always a pain. Now and days I just refuse to do the work if they pushing to cut corners.All in all I say my quality of life and the sense of being proud of work has increased.
Re:Why is modern web development so complicated? by avgDev on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @04:41PM (#20638770)
I do agree with you. Now that I think of it I rarely write "use it once and forget it", because as you said it will come back to bite.
Re:Why is modern web development so complicated? by benbristow on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @05:08PM (#20639108)
"am I gonna use it once and forget it?"

Isn't the saying, YAGNI (You're not gonna need it)?

Re:Why is modern web development so complicated? by Izkata on Thursday August 08, 2019 @06:25PM (#20649502)
YAGNI is meant for a "this could maybe be useful" scope-creep feature, that seems simple to add but doesn't have a reason to exist.

(Aside, flip the contraction to get the acronym - "you aren't gonna need it")