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Re:Steam Windows Client Local Privilege Escalation 0day by SpicyLemonZest on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @03:11PM (#20637863)
I think there's a fair question to ask here: is HackerOne a bug bounty program that offers security consulting services, or a security consulting service that's implemented as crowdsourced bug bounties? If I hire a normal security consultant, and she finds an issue in my product that I don't agree is a real vulnerability, it's absolutely not fine for her to go write a public article about it.
Re:Steam Windows Client Local Privilege Escalation 0day by marcinzm on Thursday August 08, 2019 @01:23AM (#20642065)
>If I hire a normal security consultant, and she finds an issue in my product that I don't agree is a real vulnerability, it's absolutely not fine for her to go write a public article about it.

The difference is that you pay her either way. HackerOne doesn't. If HackerOne wants the advantages of paid employees then they need to pay for employees and not mask it as a bug bounty program.

Re:Steam Windows Client Local Privilege Escalation 0day by cwills on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @06:02PM (#20639618)
> and she finds an issue in my product that I don't agree is a real vulnerability

If it’s not a real vulnerability then why would it matter if she publicised it?

Or, is it actually a real vulnerability but you don’t want to admit it because she (the security consultant) is getting paid per vulnerability found?

Re:Steam Windows Client Local Privilege Escalation 0day by SpicyLemonZest on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @06:20PM (#20639804)
Because most people can't and don't critically evaluate vulnerability reports. If "SpicyLemonZest Windows Client Local Privilege Escalation 0day" becomes a trending headline, my customers will demand I do something about it, even if I have a perfect explanation for why it's not a real vulnerability and they're at no risk.
Re:Steam Windows Client Local Privilege Escalation 0day by Draiken on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @03:57PM (#20638273)
Serious question: why?

Unless the company is lying and it IS a real vulnerability, writing an article about it seems harmless to me.

OFC that if I planned on writing an article I'd be open about it beforehand, but that feels like a courtesy and not an obligation unless an NDA is involved.

Disclaimer: I don't work in security so this is purely curiosity.

Re:Steam Windows Client Local Privilege Escalation 0day by SpicyLemonZest on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @04:26PM (#20638589)
It'd be like writing public articles attacking your company's accounting practices. Sometimes things are so bad it's fair to blow the whistle, but it creates nasty incentives if companies can't perform private security investigations without risking a public shaming over the results.
Re:Steam Windows Client Local Privilege Escalation 0day by gtirloni on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @09:55PM (#20641123)
These people are not employees. They don't agree to amounts before starting the work. They don't make promises. Nothing! I don't see how someone publishing something in that situation is a problem.

Like OP wrote in this thread, it either is a vulnerability or it's not. In the latter case, just assume it's the cost of doing business and people will write "bad" things about your product?

Re:Steam Windows Client Local Privilege Escalation 0day by FDSGSG on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @03:59PM (#20638289)
An NDA is always involved. And even if not, badmouthing your customers is bad business.
Re:Steam Windows Client Local Privilege Escalation 0day by gtirloni on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @09:56PM (#20641131)
Are they really customers?
Re:Steam Windows Client Local Privilege Escalation 0day by FDSGSG on Thursday August 08, 2019 @07:25PM (#20649959)
If we're talking about normal security consultants and not h1, yes?
Re:Steam Windows Client Local Privilege Escalation 0day by karma20 on Thursday August 08, 2019 @03:20AM (#20642496)
HackerOne is a platform on which Valve runs a public program [1] that awards monetary bounties. I'm confused as to why Valve is allowed to forbid disclosure of "out-of-scope" reports and will only "generally" disclose reports in any case:

> Please note that we will not consent to disclose reports if they have been marked out-of-scope or inapplicable, or where Valve has not taken a specific corrective action / mitigation.

> Valve embraces transparency in our security. We will generally disclose the details of vulnerabilities found, upon request.

[1] https://hackerone.com/valve

Re:Steam Windows Client Local Privilege Escalation 0day by swiley on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @04:01PM (#20638311)
I think a lot of users of your platform would disagree. Publishing attacks like this and getting them noticed helps prevent targeted attacks.