Chelsea Manning Can Remain in Jail for Another Year, Judge Rules

Re:Chelsea Manning Can Remain in Jail for Another Year, Judg... by jimktrains2 on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @12:25PM (#20636187)

Not making commentary on Manning specifically, but what you just described isn't "cruel" in terms of "cruel and unusual punishment". Now, the means of imprisonment or acts taken to you while imprisoned may be cruel, but simply imprisoning someone for breaking the law (contempt of court, in this case) does not rise to the level of "cruel".

Unfair? Unnecessary? Unfitting of the wrong? Those are all things I don't know enough to really say or discuss in an educated manner.

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Re:Chelsea Manning Can Remain in Jail for Another Year, Judg... by codezero on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @12:27PM (#20636217)

I was responding to the question "How is it cruel" - I didn't mean to opine on the legal phrasing/interpretation of cruel and unusual punishment.

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Re:Chelsea Manning Can Remain in Jail for Another Year, Judg... by mieseratte on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @12:30PM (#20636250)

> How is admittedly imprisoning someone for "coercive" reasons not cruel? /I'll table the unusual bit.

Why would I assume you meant the colloquial "cruel" and not the legal "cruel" here? Perhaps you should edit to clarify if your intent was the former as opposed to the latter.

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Re:Chelsea Manning Can Remain in Jail for Another Year, Judg... by codezero on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @12:58PM (#20636544)

I don't know, why would I assume you mean the legal terminology. I don't assume that it's that when the phrase isn't used in full - I assumed the omission was intentional. Something can be cruel without being unreasonable, and something can be unreasonable without being cruel.

Perhaps you should also edit to clarify your intent.

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