What you may have heard about the dispute between UC and Elsevier

Re:What you may have heard about the dispute between UC and ... by dessant on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @04:57AM (#20633004)

The papers they hold hostage have not been fully backed up [1] and made accessible for everyone. Elsevier does deserve to go bankrupt, but we must ensure that the information they have amassed gets salvaged.

[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5832410/

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Re:What you may have heard about the dispute between UC and ... by jraph on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @06:00AM (#20633272)

I had a laugh reading this.

> Readers should note that, in many jurisdictions, use of Sci-Hub may constitute copyright infringement. Users of Sci-Hub do so at their own risk. This study is not an endorsement of using Sci-Hub, and its authors and publishers accept no responsibility on behalf of readers. There is a possibility that Sci-Hub users — especially those not using privacy-enhancing services such as Tor — could have their usage history unmasked and face legal or reputational consequences.

> Sci-Hub is currently served at domains including https://sci-hub.hk, https://sci-hub.la, https://sci-hub.mn, https://sci-hub.name, https://sci-hub.tv, and https://sci-hub.tw, as well as at scihub22266oqcxt.onion

"We are not telling you to use Sci-Hub, but you can use Tor and here are some addresses where you can find it."

> Here we report that, as of March 2017, Sci-Hub’s database contains 68.9% of the 81.6 million scholarly articles registered with Crossref and 85.1% of articles published in toll access journals. For toll access articles, we find that Sci-Hub provides greater coverage than the University of Pennsylvania, a major research university in the United States.

"See, Sci-Hub works that well" :-)

Managing to have this hosted on a .gov website seems noteworthy.

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Re:What you may have heard about the dispute between UC and ... by praptak on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @06:49AM (#20633516)

Almost like this old joke: "How long can we tolerate this nest of indecency and moral corruption at Smith street 2, pink door on the second floor, knock three times?!"

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Re:What you may have heard about the dispute between UC and ... by duckerude on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @06:44AM (#20633492)

> Since the ledger of Bitcoin transactions is public, we can evaluate the donation activity to known Sci-Hub addresses (1K4t2vSBSS2xFjZ6PofYnbgZewjeqbG1TM, 14ghuGKDAPdEcUQN4zuzGwBUrhQgACwAyA, 1EVkHpdQ8VJQRpQ15hSRoohCztTvDMEepm).

Subtle

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Re:What you may have heard about the dispute between UC and ... by jraph on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @07:20AM (#20633673)

At this point, this article is a masterpiece.

Thanks for the joke praptak.

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Re:What you may have heard about the dispute between UC and ... by jacobolus on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @06:28AM (#20633418)

Note that the former and current Editors-in-Chief of that journal are both UC Berkeley biologists (also huge critics of paywalled science).

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Re:What you may have heard about the dispute between UC and ... by dmitriz on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @09:55PM (#20641126)

All articles are already assured to get salvaged via services like LOCKSS, CLOCKSS, and Portico. All we need is to have them go bankrupt, preferably fully, so stories like that won't repeat: https://gitlab.com/publishing-reform/discussion/issues/22

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Re:What you may have heard about the dispute between UC and ... by tomxor on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @06:12AM (#20633332)

> we must ensure that the information they have amassed gets salvaged.

Hopefully it all gets backed up by sci-hub before that point.

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Re:What you may have heard about the dispute between UC and ... by pbhjpbhj on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @09:03AM (#20634273)

What's preventing Sci-Hub from having it all, and who is backing up Sci-Hub?

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