Police arrest student leader over laser pointers in Hong Kong

Re:Police arrest student leader over laser pointers in Hong ... by hermitdev on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @12:59AM (#20632086)

Some flashlights can definitely be used as weapons. A Maglite to the clavical while holding the bulb end is a pretty sure fire way to break ones collar bone and otherwise incapacitate an assailant. One of the reasons I keep one in my car. I once had the use it as a deterrent in a road rage incident. Random guy got pissed at me for driving aggressively in a school (I was driving the speed limit and he tried to pull out in front of me from a parallel parking spot, I had to swerve to avoid him and he followed me until I got stopped by a red light.).

Anyways, this guy gets out of his car and starts aproaching my car, and I get out of my car with the flashlight. Guy was easily 80-100 lbs larger than me. He immediately stepped back and accused me of being offensive. I responded with: you honked at me, gave me the finger, got out of your car at a light to confront me. I'm being defensive. You also have a significant size advantage. You have a problem with how I drive? Follow me to the police department and I'll tell them what I witnessed. Come a step closer, and you're going to the hospital, most likely.

Guy got back in his car and didnt follow up on my offer to speak with the police.

Used properly, a Maglite can be a great personal defense weapon. Swing toward the clavical (the area where neck meats shoulders). Again, hold by the bulb end; the shape will naturally help hold itself in your hand and youve got 3 C cell batteries at the other end which give a bit of heft to a swing.

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Re:Police arrest student leader over laser pointers in Hong ... by manicdee on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @01:02AM (#20632098)

A flashlight in your backpack is not a weapon.

Also an inexperienced person trying to use a blunt force weapon is more likely to become the victim.

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Re:Police arrest student leader over laser pointers in Hong ... by k_sze on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @01:09AM (#20632124)

In the eyes of the law, the intent matters much more than whether you can actually use the “weapon” effectively, especially if it can be demonstrated that somebody with enough skill/experience (not necessarily the person being found in possession) can use the “weapon” effectively.

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Re:Police arrest student leader over laser pointers in Hong ... by hermitdev on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @01:48AM (#20632255)

Also, in the case of something like AntiFa, even if you had something like a Maglite in a backpack, intent to use could easily be construed. Broad daylight, youve got a Maglite? To what end?

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Re:Police arrest student leader over laser pointers in Hong ... by Paradigma11 on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @07:41AM (#20633758)

Because days end?

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Re:Police arrest student leader over laser pointers in Hong ... by wilheim on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @05:30AM (#20633125)

A flashlight depending on type and size can be deemed as weapon. If it is a small pocket size naturally that would not immediately categorised as a weapon. However, if the flashlight sized object is a lazer pointer then it possibly can be categorised as being a weapon not physical but a distanced weapon of harm. It depends on the output of the Lazer if it is within safety parameters and also the users intended use. If the user is a lecturer or consultant then it fails within reasonable use. I think the legal considerations law enforcement and legal professionals have to deal with is more complex.

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Re:Police arrest student leader over laser pointers in Hong ... by shalmanese on Wednesday August 07, 2019 @02:11AM (#20632334)

Part of the reason Maglite is so popular with security guards is that it's a weapon that also doubles as a flashlight and thus becomes legal to carry around.

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