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Re:Europe is edging towards making post-car cities a reality by briandear on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @05:15AM (#20623558)
So basically we change our quality of life to fit some urban ideal? My kids’ grandparents live in a different state and a different country.

A child on the BART train? You have got to be kidding. With the insane people, mentally ill, the thieves and the homeless, I would’t expose my kids to having to deal with that nonsense. Cars are awesome. Being forced to share public transportation with a bunch of weirdos isn’t progress.

I am riding home right now at 2am from the airport in Hayward to my house in Mountain View. In a car, I’ll be home soon. With public transport, I’m stranded for hours. Public transportation can’t go everywhere.

Re:Europe is edging towards making post-car cities a reality by oefrha on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @05:40AM (#20623700)
At least tens of millions of teenage or younger students take public transit to school around the world, somehow few of them seem to fall prey to “the insane people, mentally ill, the thieves and the homeless.”

Last I checked kids don’t tend to wander outside at 2am, and places with public transit tend to have taxis too. (I would add that the last thing I want to do at 2am is to drive myself home; in fact, a couple years back I had an accident due to driving jet-lagged the day following an international flight.)

Re:Europe is edging towards making post-car cities a reality by rsynnott on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @07:30AM (#20624189)
Your child is probably realistically safer on a train than in your car. Deaths due to traffic accidents per year are much, _much_ greater than deaths on trains through all causes, per passenger km. Of course, people aren't great at assessing risk.
Re:Europe is edging towards making post-car cities a reality by thex10 on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @10:05AM (#20625246)
Ah, but so many families have already changed their quality of life to fit the suburban/car-centric ideal.
Re:Europe is edging towards making post-car cities a reality by magduf on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @12:43PM (#20626881)
>A child on the BART train? You have got to be kidding. With the insane people, mentally ill, the thieves and the homeless,

Typical American paranoia.

Re:Europe is edging towards making post-car cities a reality by ryandrake on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @01:52PM (#20627641)
I’m a huge proponent of the whole “free range kid” thing, and am always looking for ways to encourage my kid’s independence, but there’s no way on earth I’m putting her on BART by herself. This is not a general paranoia about trains or public transportation—it’s a specific observation about BART in particular.

Hell, I won’t take BART through certain stops at certain times of the day and I’m a grown-ass man.