Re:Terminating Service for 8Chan
by squeaky-clean on Monday August 05, 2019 @04:38PM
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> The task is to find a cost/benefit trade-off that most people are comfortable with.
And those peoples children. And their children. And their children's children.
> just own up to your value system and acknowledge that this is the cost of the way you frame/uphold your values and you are prepared to pay it.
And our value system is that while I may not agree with what you say, I will defend to death your right to say it. And sites like 8chan is the cost we have to pay. I don't believe attempting to silence it would stop shooters, like other commenters say, they would just move into tor and telegram groups. And I think having hate speech be allowed publicly is a adequate cost to ensure that what I say today doesn't have to agree with what someone thought was okay 200 years ago, and that 200 years from now the current political opinions won't affect other people's rights to speech.
> and you are prepared to pay it.
You'll pay it, but also your children. And their children. And their children's children. Except it's shown time and time again that the way values are framed and upheld changes, while the "payment" of it doesn't.
> arguing that nothing should be done
It's not doing nothing, it's the exact opposite. You suggest we suppress it, I suggest we encourage anyone be able to speak their mind and then decide individually if they're worth listening to.
And those peoples children. And their children. And their children's children.
> just own up to your value system and acknowledge that this is the cost of the way you frame/uphold your values and you are prepared to pay it.
And our value system is that while I may not agree with what you say, I will defend to death your right to say it. And sites like 8chan is the cost we have to pay. I don't believe attempting to silence it would stop shooters, like other commenters say, they would just move into tor and telegram groups. And I think having hate speech be allowed publicly is a adequate cost to ensure that what I say today doesn't have to agree with what someone thought was okay 200 years ago, and that 200 years from now the current political opinions won't affect other people's rights to speech.
> and you are prepared to pay it.
You'll pay it, but also your children. And their children. And their children's children. Except it's shown time and time again that the way values are framed and upheld changes, while the "payment" of it doesn't.
> arguing that nothing should be done
It's not doing nothing, it's the exact opposite. You suggest we suppress it, I suggest we encourage anyone be able to speak their mind and then decide individually if they're worth listening to.