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Re:All the best engineering advice I stole from non-technica... by JetSetWilly on Monday August 05, 2019 @05:34AM (#20612639)
> Would you do time tracking for someone writing a script for a movie? Or for a painter

If change the flattering comparisons then why not? Instead of someone writing a script for a movie, imagine it is someone writing sales copy. Instead of a "painter" presumably working on some masterpiece, imagine instead it is someone in one of those Chinese factories churning out still life 3265.

Most programming tasks are well understood - most programmers in big corporations are working on CRUD apps. The correct comparison is not to some highly creative process but to some semi-creative process. Sure the details might be different but in the main it can be well understood how long it takes to add crud screen 26.

I guess pg himself popularised the flattering "programmers are just like painters" nonsense: https://idlewords.com/2005/04/dabblers_and_blowhards.htm

Re:All the best engineering advice I stole from non-technica... by mojuba on Monday August 05, 2019 @06:51AM (#20612978)
It's up to you to choose a more creative engineering job that almost requires you to be a painter (or a screenwriter). Sometimes it's the jobs that are product-level slash engineering, sometimes it's purely engineering ones that require a lot of innovation. If you are a creative type and if you want to make your life more interesting, you will be attracted to these jobs.