Re:Terminating Service for 8Chan
by wbl on Sunday August 04, 2019 @10:04PM
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Cloudflare wasn't hosting them. NT technologies was, and still is.
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Hosting is an inexact but entirely acceptable term of art for the services that are provided by a CDN.
Re:Terminating Service for 8Chan
by breakingcups on Monday August 05, 2019 @03:23AM
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Exactly. To the outside world, for all intents and purposes Cloudflare was their host. Cloudflare's IP addresses served 8chan's content, even held it on their local drives. I don't care (and neither should anyone else) that their primary source of truth was internally hosted elsewhere.
Cloudflare often tries to skirt definitions and would love to be seen as a neutral utility, a simple carrier. They're not though. 8chan was their customer. They hosted their DNS, served their content and potentially took their money (I don't know whether 8chan was on their free plan or not, but again that doesn't matter).
Re:Terminating Service for 8Chan
by selectodude on Sunday August 04, 2019 @10:05PM
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Yeah but now they can be DDoS’d.
They will find another CDN. Piratebay and others have been around for ages.
That's fine. They won't be using Cloudflare, one less option for them. That's worth doing.
May create a cascading effect where less and less CDNs will accept them.
Let's hope.
Re:Terminating Service for 8Chan
by PunchTornado on Monday August 05, 2019 @06:11AM
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keep hoping. daily stormer is still online like nothing happened
Piratebay is still using Cloudflare.
Re:Terminating Service for 8Chan
by toomuchtodo on Sunday August 04, 2019 @10:10PM
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Punishable as a federal crime (Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, or 18 U.S.C. §1030).
True but between DDOS and murder I'm gonna say a jury will prefer the DDOS.
Yeah a prosecutor is definitely going to try that case lol
Re:Terminating Service for 8Chan
by toomuchtodo on Sunday August 04, 2019 @10:15PM
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Prosecutors plea bargain slam dunk cases all the time.
DDoSes are rarely prosecuted as the perpetrators are rarely caught. This is even more true when the DDoS is done by large groups of people (such as the scientology attacks a decade or so ago).
Further, 8chan is run in the Philippines, which would add a lot of complications to any prosecution
The computer is in SF. CFAA applies and the US has jurisdiction.
You watch too much Law and Order SVU.
If you think vigilance internet justice is a solution to America's gun problem, you Americans are very deluded.
Re:Terminating Service for 8Chan
by whenchamenia on Monday August 05, 2019 @01:53PM
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Yup. Just widening the divide.
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In the same way that punching someone in the face is "speech", yeah.
In the U.S., at least, one is free to argue any number of ignorant things -- and often does.
Re:Terminating Service for 8Chan
by joshuamorton on Monday August 05, 2019 @12:25AM
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What differentiates the speechy bytes from the punchy bytes?
Re:Terminating Service for 8Chan
by tdxcbkifxx on Sunday August 04, 2019 @10:44PM
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Not even close