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Re:Google search takes 7 seconds on certain queries by kristopolous on Sunday August 04, 2019 @03:25AM (#20604968)
They seemed to have abandoned the technical user fanbase around 2012 and are now just openly hostile towards them.

Especially on mobile, making it challenging to edit URLs on their latest chrome browser. UX consistency has gone out the window for weird things like like swapping around the tab ordering for searches (check out chicago, chicagos and chicago's here: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cm0C1o8VYAgLv2O?format=png)

Other things like not providing custom date ranges on mobile search are just utterly baffling. Booleans are gone, ranges are gone, and it ignores most of the words I put in. I honestly think alta vista results circa 1997 were better than what I'm getting these days. In fact, they most certainly were.

They've also abandoned their namesake "googol" ... they don't seem to care about http, newsgroups or many other things. They should probably rename themselves to "Around300orso"

Google ceased providing functional tools for technical people a while ago. There's some decent open space for another firm to come along (like DDG or perhaps the Microsoft Renaissance) and just snatch the technical user, create compelling products for just that, and own it.

I'd even pay probably $250/yr or so for such a no-bullshit resource stack - a high quality searchable answers-oriented quick-to-use, quick-to-read technical reference without a bunch of wrong information or concrete answers buried in pages of theory. Heck, I'd probably consider dropping $2,000, that sounds amazing.

Re:Google search takes 7 seconds on certain queries by taneq on Sunday August 04, 2019 @04:06AM (#20605105)
Have you tried just using DDG? I’ve been using it for years and it’s about as good now (for my searches) as Google used to be.
Re:Google search takes 7 seconds on certain queries by nothis on Sunday August 04, 2019 @08:22AM (#20606052)
I'm seeing there's some niche cases where it's worse (especially with some extreme quotation-mark-heavy searches) but I've switched a few months ago and never looked back.

The thing is: Most searches aren't even that complicated. Whatever "magic" (read: extra processing power) Google uses is mostly helping for extreme niche cases. The rest they seem to do, nowadays, is "editorializing" results, pushing popular websites before more relevant ones, displaying results from some internal database, etc.

Re:Google search takes 7 seconds on certain queries by tambre on Sunday August 04, 2019 @04:35AM (#20605184)
Not the parent, but a stupid reason why I can't use DDG is that it doesn't support IPv6. It's extremely unhelpful when you're doing some IPv6-only testing and then can't search for answers.

As far as I can tell, 6 years ago the reason was that AWS didn't support IPv6[0]. It has for 2.5 years by now though.

[0] https://web.archive.org/web/20180909174057/https://duck.co/f...

Re:Google search takes 7 seconds on certain queries by kristopolous on Sunday August 04, 2019 @04:48AM (#20605248)
That really sounds like a 2 hour fix max on their end; just some user facing dns What am I missing?
Re:Google search takes 7 seconds on certain queries by tambre on Sunday August 04, 2019 @10:20AM (#20606672)
They seem to use load balancers, so it indeed should be that easy, unless they haven't migrated to EC2 VPC.

I doubt they have any IP-dependent code, since their main selling point is not tracking anything.

Re:Google search takes 7 seconds on certain queries by lordgrenville on Sunday August 04, 2019 @10:11AM (#20606625)
Switched to DDG recently and was pleasantly surprised to find how well it excerpts the top StackOverflow answer for technical questions. Just for this I would it's actually a better option for developers, at least for 95% of your queries.
Re:Google search takes 7 seconds on certain queries by kristopolous on Sunday August 04, 2019 @04:21AM (#20605148)
I should do it more. Maybe exclusively for a week and see how it goes.

I've actually run into Gabriel a few times online and had a bit of conversation with him. Nice guy. Can't really say I've chatted it up with Eric Schmidt...

Re:Google search takes 7 seconds on certain queries by iforgotpassword on Sunday August 04, 2019 @05:41AM (#20605431)
Once I internalized "just add !g if the results suck" using ddg became practical for me. And I don't know if it's me or ddg actually improves over time but I feel like I'm doing it less and less.

Sometimes Google seems to be better at guessing the context especially if you search for C and some other term that has a bunch of different meanings.

Re:Google search takes 7 seconds on certain queries by taneq on Sunday August 04, 2019 @08:09AM (#20605992)
Yeah, it's been months since I tried searching Google for something and the last few times I didn't find anything better than what DDG was giving me.
Re:Google search takes 7 seconds on certain queries by solarkraft on Sunday August 04, 2019 @08:46AM (#20606178)
!g is wonderfully helpful (but not too common for me).

I find it pretty funny that I automatically add !g when the Google results suck as well.

Re:Google search takes 7 seconds on certain queries by djflutt3rshy on Sunday August 04, 2019 @07:25AM (#20605809)
Custom date ranges on mobile work for me, just use the before: and after: operators. For example before:2018-01-05