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Re:Why do developers at Google consider Agile development to... by caconym_ on Saturday August 03, 2019 @11:38AM (#20600907)
Is "the masses" offensive?
Re:Why do developers at Google consider Agile development to... by solidasparagus on Saturday August 03, 2019 @12:18PM (#20601135)
It's a phrase that tends to be used by people who consider themselves superior to 'the masses'. The phrase refers specifically to the lower-classes or those outside of elite circles[1]. Combined with Google's reputation of quiet arrogance[2], it's a phrase that I would have avoided.

[1] Pick a dictionary and you will find references to lower-classes, the not-elite or the common people. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/the%20masses https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/masses#English https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/masses

[2] Put in to words nicely here https://medium.com/@steve.yegge/why-i-left-google-to-join-gr..., but you can feel it in many of Google's products where they make all the major decisions because they don't believe users are as capable of making good decisions as Googlers.

Re:Why do developers at Google consider Agile development to... by tomc1985 on Saturday August 03, 2019 @02:04PM (#20601733)
You should probably chill with that. It's used by all sorts of people and does not reflect their feelings towards "the masses"
Re:Why do developers at Google consider Agile development to... by will4274 on Saturday August 03, 2019 @01:41PM (#20601630)
No, but some people are sensitive. I suspect most Google developers consider themselves part of "the masses"
Re:Why do developers at Google consider Agile development to... by mnd999 on Saturday August 03, 2019 @04:05PM (#20602368)
I’m not sure that’s true
Re:Why do developers at Google consider Agile development to... by malvosenior on Saturday August 03, 2019 @11:42AM (#20600938)
For someone who doesn't want to be painted in broad strokes, it seems like a very broad brush to paint non-Googlers with.
Re:Why do developers at Google consider Agile development to... by yRetsyM on Saturday August 03, 2019 @12:06PM (#20601073)
I read the masses as anyone but he development team. Who's to say that the masses doesn't mean Googlers? It wasn't categorising anyone aside from being "everyone else" as I read it
Re:Why do developers at Google consider Agile development to... by Udik on Saturday August 03, 2019 @12:13PM (#20601108)
Who said that Googlers are not part of those "masses"? Surely they enjoy products from their company as anybody else?

And then, of course, nobody said you're part of those masses anyway. Maybe you're not. Do you enjoy Google product X as other hundreds of million do? Then you're part of the mass that enjoys it. Otherwise you are part of the mass that doesn't.

Re:Why do developers at Google consider Agile development to... by solidasparagus on Saturday August 03, 2019 @01:57PM (#20601695)
'The masses' refers to the lower classes (look at any dictionary and how the word has historically been used - 'opiate of the masses', 'the unwashed masses'). It would not typically be correct to say that a Googler is part of the lower classer. 'The masses' is definitely not the same as 'everyone'.
Re:Why do developers at Google consider Agile development to... by tomc1985 on Saturday August 03, 2019 @02:05PM (#20601743)
In your negative case you're using modifier words to change the meaning of "masses". Besides, why be part of the PC police??
Re:Why do developers at Google consider Agile development to... by tom_ on Saturday August 03, 2019 @04:26PM (#20602473)
Another way of putting it: words have connotations as well as meanings.

People do sometimes seem to forget this! - so it's good to have a reminder.

Re:Why do developers at Google consider Agile development to... by solidasparagus on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @03:01PM (#20698826)
Well put
Re:Why do developers at Google consider Agile development to... by skinnymuch on Saturday August 03, 2019 @03:23PM (#20602118)
Saying unwashed before most words standing in for people would likely not be a nice thing to say. So of course unwashed masses isn’t a good phrase. Nor is “unwashed people”
Re:Why do developers at Google consider Agile development to... by ryandvm on Saturday August 03, 2019 @01:17PM (#20601485)
I'm so fucking sick of people being offended by everything
Re:Why do developers at Google consider Agile development to... by fourthark on Saturday August 03, 2019 @01:23PM (#20601527)
I'm so tired of people being sick of people being offended by everything.
Re:Why do developers at Google consider Agile development to... by heyoni on Saturday August 03, 2019 @02:38PM (#20601898)
And I feel sick...probably because of something I ate.