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Re:Programmers: Before you turn 40, get a plan B (2009) by spraak on Friday August 02, 2019 @12:16PM (#20594176)
> grinding away at a FANG

I've started to propose we s/FANG/Big N/g "FANG" leaves off other obvious big companies, e.g. Uber, and it wouldn't scale to keep trying to add them to the acronym. Here N is used like when one talks about a list "N items long"

Re:Programmers: Before you turn 40, get a plan B (2009) by pmiller2 on Friday August 02, 2019 @12:58PM (#20594498)
Uber and Lyft don’t belong on any “Big N” list until they show a profit rather than pissing away billions a year.
Re:Programmers: Before you turn 40, get a plan B (2009) by spraak on Friday August 02, 2019 @01:26PM (#20594800)
But that highlights the inconsistent usage of the term. Often it's used to just mean "a company with a lot of engineers with similar practices and culture"
Re:Programmers: Before you turn 40, get a plan B (2009) by c0vfefe on Friday August 02, 2019 @04:48PM (#20596518)
How much profit does Amazon show?
Re:Programmers: Before you turn 40, get a plan B (2009) by hn_throwaway_99 on Friday August 02, 2019 @04:56PM (#20596577)
Amazon made $2.62 billion in the last quarter, and $3.5 billion the quarter before that.

Amazon makes a ton of money, and (quite transparently I might add) they plow a lot of their earnings from some of their businesses into investing into their other businesses, which is what most investors want.

This is completely different from Uber and Lyft, where it's not clear that their profit potential supports their current valuations.

Re:Programmers: Before you turn 40, get a plan B (2009) by pmiller2 on Friday August 02, 2019 @04:51PM (#20596539)
Amazon has demonstrated its ability to show a profit. Uber and Lyft have not.
Re:Programmers: Before you turn 40, get a plan B (2009) by spraak on Friday August 02, 2019 @07:16PM (#20597460)
If the acronym is only about profit then it is both misused and excludes other obvious companies like Microsoft.
Re:Programmers: Before you turn 40, get a plan B (2009) by pmiller2 on Friday August 02, 2019 @10:31PM (#20598279)
It’s not entirely about profit, but I would argue you have to show a profit, or, demonstrate you could show a profit like Amazon has, to be considered a “top company” in any sense.
Re:Programmers: Before you turn 40, get a plan B (2009) by qes on Saturday August 03, 2019 @01:48PM (#20601650)
How does it exclude Microsoft, who reported $8.4 billion net income for Q2 2019?
Re:Programmers: Before you turn 40, get a plan B (2009) by blackflame7000 on Friday August 02, 2019 @03:29PM (#20595854)
Does it seem odd to exclude Microsoft from FAANG when it's the largest?
Re:Programmers: Before you turn 40, get a plan B (2009) by scarface74 on Friday August 02, 2019 @05:26PM (#20596804)
MAGA - Microsoft Apple Google Amazon:

Edit:

I just realized what else that stood for...

Re:Programmers: Before you turn 40, get a plan B (2009) by blackflame7000 on Friday August 02, 2019 @06:16PM (#20597075)
It's fine, we'll print the message on hats so people know were talking about something else haha.
Re:Programmers: Before you turn 40, get a plan B (2009) by aleister_777 on Saturday August 03, 2019 @01:41AM (#20598861)
It's okay. Might as well settle into the next 5 years and try to have a good time. Lots of people are.
Re:Programmers: Before you turn 40, get a plan B (2009) by spraak on Friday August 02, 2019 @03:32PM (#20595881)
Exactly
Re:Programmers: Before you turn 40, get a plan B (2009) by jknoepfler on Friday August 02, 2019 @12:21PM (#20594214)
I agree, I guess I just meant "enterprise" - the purpose of including FANG was to call out that there's nothing particularly distinguished about working for those companies, the workloads are very similar to ABC enterprise workloads these days.
Re:Programmers: Before you turn 40, get a plan B (2009) by codernyc16 on Friday August 02, 2019 @12:29PM (#20594284)
NOFANG?
Re:Programmers: Before you turn 40, get a plan B (2009) by rzzzt on Friday August 02, 2019 @12:53PM (#20594444)
FAAUN-G
Re:Programmers: Before you turn 40, get a plan B (2009) by vandahm on Friday August 02, 2019 @03:30PM (#20595865)
FAAN.+G