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Re:Typed Properties in PHP 7.4 by dfcmt on Friday August 02, 2019 @07:12AM (#20592096)
C++ is also full of cruft. But you can use a subset of it and it becomes very good.

Also this new mantra of "speed doesn't matter" is what brought us to Windows 10, Electron, etc. No thanks. I'm taking a stand against slow software.

Re:Typed Properties in PHP 7.4 by nkozyra on Friday August 02, 2019 @07:19AM (#20592122)
And people complain as much about C++ as they do about PHP. The emerging languages have put conservative, thoughtful design at the forefront, in great part due to these frustrations.