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Re:10 Internet Giants, 10 Years ago by solipsist on Saturday January 01, 2011 @11:13PM (#2059372)
It really does seem that there was less of a focus on design back in the day. Sure, times change, fads come and go, and styles change. However, you can't tell me that Youtube's page was anything pretty even with 2005 standards [1] or that Wikipedia invested a lot in their design [2]

What's not surprising is that this seems to be changing. Businesses are investing thousands on the design of their websites and it hard to believe that any more money spent in the area could really make them noticeably better. Twitter, an example of a website that is leading the next generation of the Internet, seems to have been quite stylish when it came out itself. They probably didn't spend that much money on design, but it's evident that they spent time on it. Other startups are doing the same - coming out with killer designs the moment they are released. That definitely wasn't the philosophy 10 or 15 years ago (just look at Google [3]), when design took time to evolve and never started out that good.

However, all of this brings up the issue of functionality in comparison design. I'm sure there were websites at the time that had spent money and time on a good design, but those aren't the ones that succeeded. The ones that ended up becoming the internet giants of 2011 were the ones with hideous interfaces and childish logos, but evidently with great functionality. Does that mean that all the time we are spending on design is useless, or that design itself is useful and has become a bigger factor in what makes a website successful today?

Personally, I think that the time we spend on design is worthwhile, as our usage of the web has increased dramatically over time and therefore a slick and intuitive interface is a key component for a website to have. Users spend so much time on certain webpages, that unless another one can prove to have a more productive and pleasing interface, there is no reason to switch. So what do you all think?

[1] Youtube (2005): http://web.archive.org/web/20050428014715/http://www.youtube...

[2] Wikipedia (2002): http://web.archive.org/web/20020930123525/http://www.wikiped...

[3] Google (1998): http://web.archive.org/web/19981202230410/http://www.google....

Re:10 Internet Giants, 10 Years ago by johndar on Sunday January 02, 2011 @04:53AM (#2059814)
However, all of this brings up the issue of functionality in comparison design. I'm sure there were websites at the time that had spent money and time on a good design, but those aren't the ones that succeeded. The ones that ended up becoming the internet giants of 2011 were the ones with hideous interfaces and childish logos, but evidently with great functionality. Does that mean that all the time we are spending on design is useless, or that design itself is useful and has become a bigger factor in what makes a website successful today?

I fully agree with you there. If your product has potential, design is not a key factor. Design becomes a key factor when your product characteristics are similar, if not equal, with competitors. That's the main reason we are seeing a surge of design in web/UI lately: higher competition and lack of innovation.

This also reaffirms my theory that getting there first, when it comes to features, has much higher impact than long design phases (that can eventually be postponed).

Re:10 Internet Giants, 10 Years ago by Ysx on Saturday January 01, 2011 @09:04PM (#2059148)
Twitter started in 2006, not 2003: http://www.crunchbase.com/company/twitter
Re:10 Internet Giants, 10 Years ago by cantbecool on Saturday January 01, 2011 @09:10PM (#2059161)
The image for the old twitter page says 2007 at the bottom of the page.
Re:10 Internet Giants, 10 Years ago by ksowocki on Sunday January 02, 2011 @11:59AM (#2060359)
Thanks for the comments. I've corrected the post.
Re:10 Internet Giants, 10 Years ago by patricklynch on Saturday January 01, 2011 @08:53PM (#2059131)
My big takeaway:

Crazy to think designers needed four small images to get a box with rounded corners.

Re:10 Internet Giants, 10 Years ago by ameyamk on Saturday January 01, 2011 @09:13PM (#2059165)
I still can't tell if eBay has actually gotten any better over the past 10 years. :P
Re:10 Internet Giants, 10 Years ago by ameyamk on Saturday January 01, 2011 @08:47PM (#2059118)
Re:10 Internet Giants, 10 Years ago by ksowocki on Sunday January 02, 2011 @11:59AM (#2060361)
Thanks. I'll give it an add.
Re:10 Internet Giants, 10 Years ago by Ryan_IRL on Saturday January 01, 2011 @09:14PM (#2059168)
Was youtube also a matchmaking service? I'm a little confused by that "I'm a Male seeking ..." form below the login box.
Re:10 Internet Giants, 10 Years ago by istvanp on Saturday January 01, 2011 @09:45PM (#2059226)
It mas most likely an ad (image) made to look like it was part of the page. Those are still around and still fool neophytes.
Re:10 Internet Giants, 10 Years ago by Ryan_IRL on Saturday January 01, 2011 @09:50PM (#2059233)
Wait... did you just call me a non-native plant species?
Re:10 Internet Giants, 10 Years ago by istvanp on Sunday January 02, 2011 @02:10AM (#2059636)
My comment was not directed at you. I was simply stating a general fact. In this context it also took me a second to realize it was an ad.
Re:10 Internet Giants, 10 Years ago by joeyh on Saturday January 01, 2011 @09:01PM (#2059144)
Wow, I'd forgotten how cheerful Ebay used to look.

Almost makes one want to use it..