Thank you. And I'd never heard your pithy description before, but I shall proceed to steal it. ;) As the thinking seemingly goes, only journalists must have ethics (those ethics being defined as "whatever makes the claimant happy at the given time"), but I'm not a journalist...!

HN makes it difficult to really have these conversations in-depth because at some point one must nod to the elephant in the room and point out that there is a manufactured epistemic closure at the heart of the "objective journalism!" complaints. Which is to say that 'edoo might be relaying his opinion in good faith but the folks who peddled his opinion to him certainly did not do so in similar good faith--and there is something slithering in the dark that has a real interest in the delegitimization of journalism that even just tries to represent the truth as it is understood by the journalist.