Re:Why Lie Detector Tests Can’t Be Trusted
by Spearchucker on Monday July 29, 2019 @02:49PM
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I've done a few and never failed one. Was told to clench my butt cheeks really hard to get a pass. Another tip was to put a drawing pin into your shoe and push down onto it with your foot as hard s you were able to tolerate. And if you search online there are a few other techniques you can use to ace the tests. Most interesting for me was being told I'd failed a test I was later told I'd passed. It's sheer madness.
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Re:Why Lie Detector Tests Can’t Be Trusted
by SignalsFromBob on Monday July 29, 2019 @03:58PM
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> Most interesting for me was being told I'd failed a test I was later told I'd passed. It's sheer madness.
It's pseudoscience. They might as well have [measured the size of your head][1] to make their decision.
They often ask you explicitly if you know or have researched methods to defeat the polygraph. It's a lose/lose situation because most people have heard of such things or DID research out of curiosity facing taking a test, but admitting it makes you look bad. You generally don't get the chance to explain yourself, and if you do it just makes you look more guilty. The entire process is designed to give an excuse to arrive at the conclusions the entity administering the test wants to arrive at.
Re:Why Lie Detector Tests Can’t Be Trusted
by bradknowles on Monday July 29, 2019 @05:25PM
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So, I would have totally failed the test repeatedly, because I would keep insisting on fully explaining the circumstances under which I had heard about the methods but not actively researched them.
And I would tell them to check my shoe and see that there is no thumbtack there. And check my cheek to prove that I'm not biting it in secret. And otherwise expose all the other methods that I know of, and prove that I'm not using any of them.
I'm sure that I would have frustrated the hell out of them, and they would have made damn sure that I always failed the tests, every time.
Re:Why Lie Detector Tests Can’t Be Trusted
by jobigoud on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @02:46AM
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Q: Are you capable of defeating this test?
A: No.
The answer does not convey any information whatsoever.
At least on TV there are now pressure sensors in the seats to catch the butt-clenching thing.
Re:Why Lie Detector Tests Can’t Be Trusted
by giles_corey on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @12:32AM
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For federal agencies, the seat pad is now standard. There are no public studies of its effectiveness. Regarding how the U.S. government attempts to detect polygraph countermeasures, see:
https://antipolygraph.org/blog/2018/06/09/ncca-polygraph-cou...
How is that even supposed to work?
Re:Why Lie Detector Tests Can’t Be Trusted
by anonymfus on Monday July 29, 2019 @05:30PM
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A TV viewer thinks "How about butt clenching?", then one of the characters in the TV show articulates this thought and other gives a response. What actually the response is usually does not matter, because TV viewer already felt some connection with the show when that question was asked.
By making you believe that it works, like every other aspect of the process.
Re:Why Lie Detector Tests Can’t Be Trusted
by thfuran on Wednesday July 31, 2019 @05:31PM
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Then they're going to need to go with an electrical sensor of some sort. Some kind of EBG that could at least plausibly detect it.