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Re:Report on Microsoft Office and Windows software: still pr... by JustSomeNobody on Monday July 29, 2019 @02:18PM (#20557621)
> Microsoft used to have an army of testers who would do a mix of manual and automated testing to help ensure the quality of the product. In 2014 they were all fired.

> ... Devs are expected to test their own code now

I'll never understand this line of thinking. A good tester doesn't think the way a good developer does. It's a different but equal and necessary skill in order to provide a strong product.

Re:Report on Microsoft Office and Windows software: still pr... by studentik on Monday July 29, 2019 @03:18PM (#20558324)
Fully agree! Development is about making things work, testing is about breaking things. Sadly, some managers think that 'developed' includes 'tested' and expect flawless results from developers. It's like being a dancer and a painter simultaneously - possible, but has its limitations.
Re:Report on Microsoft Office and Windows software: still pr... by bradknowles on Monday July 29, 2019 @06:07PM (#20559967)
More like being a dancer and a demolitionist at the same time.

Not only messy, but also quite deadly.

Re:Report on Microsoft Office and Windows software: still pr... by JustSomeNobody on Monday July 29, 2019 @05:24PM (#20559616)
> It's like being a dancer and a painter simultaneously - possible, but has its limitations.

And messy.