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Re:The human body is already close to thermal limits in many... by nicoburns on Monday July 29, 2019 @07:11AM (#20553290)
Frankly, I think your attitude is precisely what we need to change in order to solve the climate crisis. The solution, the only solution is to change people's perspective such that they see that these things are important.

The kind of "solutions" that involve not changing any of the behaviours that are causing the problems are the ones that are not really solution.

Re:The human body is already close to thermal limits in many... by kd5bjo on Monday July 29, 2019 @07:29AM (#20553390)
On the flip side, the “solutions” that boil down to admonishing people not to do patently useful things are politically impossible, unless they propose a solution to the new problem they’re creating.
Re:The human body is already close to thermal limits in many... by thatcat on Monday July 29, 2019 @10:57AM (#20555239)
The people so egar to keep up these behaviors should solve that problem themselves. They aren't entitled to have other people carry the burden of supporting their wasteful lifestyle.
Re:The human body is already close to thermal limits in many... by kd5bjo on Monday July 29, 2019 @11:29AM (#20555583)
Recent history notwithstanding, politics is fundamentally about consensus and compromise. Regardless of the strength of your personal belief, change won’t happen until you convince a majority of people (or their representatives) to vote for your specific plan. Ostracism strengthens the opinions of people on both sides of the issue; it works directly against what has to happen to make actual progress.
Re:The human body is already close to thermal limits in many... by trilila on Monday July 29, 2019 @10:19AM (#20554848)
Frankly, you are jumping to conclusions. I don't drive a car, despite being a former “petrol head”. I am stating a hard truth, but apparently hard truths are hard to swallow on either side. If anything, you should chance your attitude.
Re:The human body is already close to thermal limits in many... by nicoburns on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @09:25AM (#20564584)
My claim is that the realities of our climate are harder than political realities. Changing people's minds is a necessary part of a solution, so if we can't do that then there is no hope at all.
Re:The human body is already close to thermal limits in many... by rimliu on Monday July 29, 2019 @09:08AM (#20554196)
Except these personal changes would have very little effect if any.