Re:Suicide Attempters’ Long-Term Survival
by DoreenMichele on Monday July 29, 2019 @05:36AM
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I'm glad you've found something that works _for you_, but it's really important to recognise that your experience is not usual, and that many people would find it invalidating.
My experience is a statistical outlier best case scenario. That's exactly the point of sharing it.
It took years for my sons to develop the details of this approach. Our lives got vastly better when they stopped replying to $crazything with attempted rebuttal and began replying with "Are you hungry? Thirsty? Warm enough?"
> Living alone -- Women: 45% Men 50%
This shows that living alone is a risk factor, but it also shows that most people who die by suicide do not live alone.
That is not directly salient to my point that the act of suicide tends to occur while physically alone, which is certainly not an assertion that it's 100% of the time.
I'm well aware that family can be part of the problem. Family was absolutely part of the problem when I attempted suicide at age 17.
It's generally not constructive to assume the worst about total strangers on the internet and lecture them as if they must be abusive people if they have a relative who is prone to suicidal ideation. In fact, that approach tends to make problems worse.
Abusive situations don't necessarily start with any intent to abuse. They can occur because someone either feels responsible or actually is legally responsible and doesn't have adequate knowledge or tools for coping effectively.
Desperate attempts to control another person in order to avoid X outcome easily turn abusive. "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."
Sometimes simply knowing that it's possible to get through it in a humane and constructive fashion is sufficient to allow more rational impulses to rule the day. Giving in to a sense of desperation or hopelessness is typically not a good thing when facing serious problems.
My experience is a statistical outlier best case scenario. That's exactly the point of sharing it.
It took years for my sons to develop the details of this approach. Our lives got vastly better when they stopped replying to $crazything with attempted rebuttal and began replying with "Are you hungry? Thirsty? Warm enough?"
> Living alone -- Women: 45% Men 50%
This shows that living alone is a risk factor, but it also shows that most people who die by suicide do not live alone.
That is not directly salient to my point that the act of suicide tends to occur while physically alone, which is certainly not an assertion that it's 100% of the time.
I'm well aware that family can be part of the problem. Family was absolutely part of the problem when I attempted suicide at age 17.
It's generally not constructive to assume the worst about total strangers on the internet and lecture them as if they must be abusive people if they have a relative who is prone to suicidal ideation. In fact, that approach tends to make problems worse.
Abusive situations don't necessarily start with any intent to abuse. They can occur because someone either feels responsible or actually is legally responsible and doesn't have adequate knowledge or tools for coping effectively.
Desperate attempts to control another person in order to avoid X outcome easily turn abusive. "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."
Sometimes simply knowing that it's possible to get through it in a humane and constructive fashion is sufficient to allow more rational impulses to rule the day. Giving in to a sense of desperation or hopelessness is typically not a good thing when facing serious problems.