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Re:The Lithium Mine Buildup Is Outpacing the Electric-Car Boom by vvanders on Sunday July 28, 2019 @11:16PM (#20551266)
Tesla still doesn't have a rival in charging network or software.

Having arrived at more than a few broken chargers the former is going to give them a lead for a good while.

Re:The Lithium Mine Buildup Is Outpacing the Electric-Car Boom by clouddrover on Monday July 29, 2019 @01:06AM (#20551658)
> Tesla still doesn't have a rival in charging network

Depends where you are I suppose. In addition to Tesla's network, Europe has:

- Ionity: https://ionity.eu/

- FastNed: https://fastnedcharging.com/en/

- Allego: https://www.allego.eu/

- GIREVE: https://www.gireve.com/en/

And more. All standardized on CCS type 2 plugs which is another plus.

Re:The Lithium Mine Buildup Is Outpacing the Electric-Car Boom by WorldMaker on Monday July 29, 2019 @12:08PM (#20556066)
It's the US where there currently isn't a strong "second place" to Tesla yet. There are a lot of competitors depending on region, but that's also the problem is that there are so many competitors that quality is a very broad spectrum and margins are low. VW's (US EPA mandated) Electrify America (and its alliance in turn with players like ChargePoint) is probably the one to watch for up-and-coming national second place competitor to Tesla's charging network, but they are years behind in build out right now.
Re:The Lithium Mine Buildup Is Outpacing the Electric-Car Boom by Sabinus on Monday July 29, 2019 @01:13AM (#20551680)
How exclusive is the Tesla charging network? Is it available to use for other brands of electric car?
Re:The Lithium Mine Buildup Is Outpacing the Electric-Car Boom by dabeeeenster on Monday July 29, 2019 @01:35AM (#20551758)
I have a Nissan leaf. When I talk to people about it, it amazes me how many people think anyone can use the Tesla network. Noone other than Tesla cars can!
Re:The Lithium Mine Buildup Is Outpacing the Electric-Car Boom by clouddrover on Monday July 29, 2019 @02:59AM (#20552101)
And Teslas can use non-Tesla charging networks. Tesla should standardize on CCS plugs where it makes sense to (like they've done in Europe) and open their chargers up to other EVs.

Tesla was recently denied a government subsidy in New York because they're not offering CCS charging, which is fair enough. If they're not going to make it available to all EVs then the utility of the infrastructure is limited and they shouldn't get any discounts funded with public money:

https://electrek.co/2019/07/23/new-york-pressures-tesla-to-o...

Re:The Lithium Mine Buildup Is Outpacing the Electric-Car Boom by thekyle on Monday July 29, 2019 @11:44PM (#20561978)
Glad to hear about New York. We don't need more taxpayer money funding proprietary systems.
Re:The Lithium Mine Buildup Is Outpacing the Electric-Car Boom by opsroller on Tuesday July 30, 2019 @04:30AM (#20563066)
Umm, Tesla open sourced all of their IP.