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Re:Some progress on CO2 sequestration technologies by ajross on Saturday July 27, 2019 @06:47PM (#20544718)
It's more "Planes are new and unproven and if you want to ship cargo on them I'm going to want to see numbers". In fact this did eventually work, but not until FedEx came along half a century later using surplus early generation jets that no one was imagining in the early part of the century.

Someone who threw a ton of venture cash at "Air Freight Ltd." in 1913 or whatever would have lost their shirt.

Back to the point: I'm not saying this won't work. I'm saying that there are firm limits to how well it MUST work just to be better than technology that was proven out five millenia ago. That's a really high bar, and it needs numbers and not press hits.

Re:Some progress on CO2 sequestration technologies by godelski on Saturday July 27, 2019 @07:34PM (#20544899)
All I'm saying is that this technology is still in its infancy. It sounded to me like you suggest we defund them and use the money for other things. I disagree with this on a number of points. 1) We need sequestration to solve climate change. 2) technologies need money to develop and get off the ground. To go from demonstration to something really useful.
Re:Some progress on CO2 sequestration technologies by Misdicorl on Saturday July 27, 2019 @10:03PM (#20545456)
We have the technology. It's called planting forests and then sinking then in the deep ocean. It works. Every other technology is much much much worse. Including this one.
Re:Some progress on CO2 sequestration technologies by quote on Monday August 05, 2019 @01:34PM (#20616197)
Hi, do you have some source or paper on this approach? I don’t mean to dispute this but have never heard of it before and a quick query didn’t turn up any results, rather the opposite (decay processes happening on the sea floor, not sure whether / or in what amounts those release co2 again).
Re:Some progress on CO2 sequestration technologies by Misdicorl on Monday August 05, 2019 @06:32PM (#20619854)
I don't have a source, just some napkin math. I don't know what the timescale is for plant decay in the deep ocean. Perhaps my 'it works' is optimistic.
Re:Some progress on CO2 sequestration technologies by quote on Thursday August 08, 2019 @08:05AM (#20643708)
Optimistic perhaps, but maybe not impossible ;)

I've done some further googling and found some studies on the topic, though on-land: https://cbmjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1750-0... and some more from a presentation https://www.feem.it/m/events_pages/20167111127315Zeng_presen...

Though the question still remains how securely the CO2 would be stored under the ocean. Maybe with a large enough layer of rock on top it would suffice.. I suppose it's high time we started field trials on all these approaches.

My own back-of-napkin calc says that we'd need to cut about .1 to .2 % of tropical rainforests per year and remove them from the carbon cycle, not sure if that's right.

Re:Some progress on CO2 sequestration technologies by quote on Wednesday August 14, 2019 @05:17AM (#20693868)
Oops, my calculation was way off (missed a kilo-prefix somewhere), we'd need to cut and store about the entire rainforest per year. So, this is obviously not possible as an all-around solution but might help with some Gigatonnes..
Re:Some progress on CO2 sequestration technologies by godelski on Sunday July 28, 2019 @02:17AM (#20546125)
Just because current tech sucks doesn't mean we shouldn't keep developing it. I'm not sure why this is such a controversial idea, especially among tech savvy people.
Re:Some progress on CO2 sequestration technologies by Misdicorl on Sunday July 28, 2019 @10:23AM (#20547687)
It's controversial because we already have a decent solution and the competing ones suck for a lot of reasons that can't be developed away.

It would be as if someone started doing research on vacuum tube transistor technology today if we were having a global compute crisis and we also had limited amount of sand with which to make glass and sand was an essential resource in all sorts of other things like the food supply chain.

Re:Some progress on CO2 sequestration technologies by godelski on Sunday July 28, 2019 @01:30PM (#20548733)
But that's not the situation we're in. We can't plant enough trees without destroying a lot of cities. There are in fact better places to place trees than other places, besides the fact that we can't plant enough and they don't do enough fast enough. The issue is that we currently don't have a full solution. We're close, but not all the way there.
Re:Some progress on CO2 sequestration technologies by Misdicorl on Sunday July 28, 2019 @03:43PM (#20549447)
If sinking trees is not a good enough solution, developing and improving a solution that is currently immeasurably worse and might someday be a hundred times worse is lunacy.

What impact on cities? Cities take up almost no space and are irrelevant when talking about planting forests and then sinking them in the ocean. At worst there will be more freight train noise.

Re:Some progress on CO2 sequestration technologies by garmaine on Saturday July 27, 2019 @07:05PM (#20544793)
Um, AirMail was a thing in the 20’s and 30’s, long before FedEx. It’s where the airline industry got its start.