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Re:GitHub banned all Iranian users. Our accounts are restric... by onyva on Saturday July 27, 2019 @12:35PM (#20542762)
Why are these people assuming GitHub is some sort of an open source authority. Is it so difficult to understand it’s a company that hosts free and open source projects like any other service? The ignorance is just baffling.
Re:GitHub banned all Iranian users. Our accounts are restric... by akrulino on Saturday July 27, 2019 @01:05PM (#20542921)
Why would you call it either ignorant or baffling? Do you expect Iranian users to have a deep understanding of American export laws and the political intricacies that might follow from Microsoft's acquisition?

This is an completely understandable reaction regarding Github's block against Iranian accounts. Github as been around for over 10 years, and this never happened before.

Re:GitHub banned all Iranian users. Our accounts are restric... by sdinsn on Saturday July 27, 2019 @01:29PM (#20543037)
> Do you expect Iranian users to have a deep understanding of American export laws

No, but I expect them to at least understand ONE law, since the sanctions affect their country significantly and their politicians talk non-stop about it.

> might follow from Microsoft's acquisition?

This has nothing to do with MSFT. GitHub has always been a US-based company.

> Github as been around for over 10 years, and this never happened before

Because GitHub hadn't been following the law before.

Re:GitHub banned all Iranian users. Our accounts are restric... by sanderjd on Saturday July 27, 2019 @01:11PM (#20542958)
I don't think it has anything to do with the Microsoft acquisition... GitHub was always a US owned and operated company. The reason this hasn't happened in the last 10 years and is happening now is that the laws regarding US companies doing business with Iranians has changed during that period of time. It's not GitHub's or Microsoft's fault, it's the fault of governments, the people running them, and the people empowering then.
Re:GitHub banned all Iranian users. Our accounts are restric... by edejong on Saturday July 27, 2019 @01:11PM (#20542953)
Github owned by Github. But this is something different. It is Github owned by Microsoft. Acquisitions, in general, do not end well for the established user-base.

Suggestion: move you repositories! Host your own repositories! Use something different, like Gerrit, to spice up your development! Take matters in your own hand! Own your data, own your compute!

Re:GitHub banned all Iranian users. Our accounts are restric... by sanderjd on Saturday July 27, 2019 @01:14PM (#20542974)
Is there something about this that I've missed that has something to do with the Microsoft acquisition? The same laws would have governed GitHub if they hadn't been acquired.
Re:GitHub banned all Iranian users. Our accounts are restric... by onyva on Saturday July 27, 2019 @02:05PM (#20543245)
From an Open Source developer point of view, yes, of course. Open Source projects should not be hosted with them. Period. It completely betrays the spirit of the licenses the code is released under, which guarantees access to anyone, regardless of political, religious, etc.
Re:GitHub banned all Iranian users. Our accounts are restric... by edejong on Saturday July 27, 2019 @04:43PM (#20544073)
It all depends on interpretation of the law, lobbying, stalling and the amount of bad press an actor can handle. Microsoft is a much older company and is likely to have stronger ties to the established government.
Re:GitHub banned all Iranian users. Our accounts are restric... by onyva on Saturday July 27, 2019 @02:01PM (#20543219)
I'm not talking about understanding USA law, and couldn't care less. People, developers especially, should know something about the licenses they're using. Anyways, any company will have to comply with the law. I guess Microsoft in its war against Free Software managed to sow confusion. Free Software and Open Source are about licenses, not hosting services. How would they react, if for example, Microsoft/GitHub will stop hosting Open Source projects for free?

BTW, this is why I deleted my account at GitHub the day the purchase was announced.

Re:GitHub banned all Iranian users. Our accounts are restric... by yub on Sunday July 28, 2019 @12:04PM (#20548194)
War against open source? They’re the largest corporate contributor to open source, they’ve open sourced a ton of projects, including XAML and .NET Core (which is also now cross platform), and they joined the Open Source Initiative. If you honestly believe 2019 Microsoft is anti-open source, you’re living in the past.
Re:GitHub banned all Iranian users. Our accounts are restric... by rvz on Saturday July 27, 2019 @01:12PM (#20542959)
I completely agree. I don't see why some developers need to solely depend on GitHub for private use when you can self-host GitLab/cgit with a cheap computer to host your projects. Open-source development has already thrived without the likes of GitHub even before it was founded.

Perhaps the time to self-host your projects just like how Mastodon allows self-hosting an instance is more important than ever, which will probably be better for open-source instead of centralizing and increasing our dependency on GitHub.

Re:GitHub banned all Iranian users. Our accounts are restric... by ssnistfajen on Saturday July 27, 2019 @01:18PM (#20542994)
These devs are stuck in a tough situation and your first reaction is to sneer and insult them?

The complete lack of basic empathy is just baffling.

Re:GitHub banned all Iranian users. Our accounts are restric... by aaomidi on Saturday July 27, 2019 @01:42PM (#20543122)
"It's okay because CNN and Fox News tells me to be scared of the brown man".

It's amazing how people don't see that this isn't because of human rights. It's literally one country bullying another.