Square’s Growth Framework for Engineers and Engineering Managers

Re:Square’s Growth Framework for Engineers and Engineering M... by joshuamorton on Friday July 26, 2019 @05:07AM (#20533404)

Sure. But that's not relevant to the argument being had. Growth beyond a certain point in management being easier, while perhaps true, isn't the same thing as claiming that swapping from IC to management is, alone, a promotion.

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Re:Square’s Growth Framework for Engineers and Engineering M... by matthewowen on Monday July 29, 2019 @06:06PM (#20559963)

the original comment said "you'll watch them rise further and futher in the company hierarchy while you're enjoying your "parallel track"", and the comment i replied to disagreed.

the question was about "parallel track", and i don't see how you can conclude that they're parallel: it seems to me that the IC path is circuitous and takes a lot longer to get anywhere on.

put another way: imagine that you had no preference over the work, were equally good as both IC and manager, and wanted to optimize for career progression. you would _always_ prefer management. and in fact even if you'd make a better IC than a manager, to a large extent you'd still profit more in management.

i agree that it isn't necessarily a promotion to move from IC to manager. but it also _isn't_ a parallel track: by moving, you've moved to a track which is much more direct.

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