Re:Square’s Growth Framework for Engineers and Engineering M...
by sophiebits on Thursday July 25, 2019 @11:02PM
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Some ICs at top tech companies get paid much, much more than $600k.
Re:Square’s Growth Framework for Engineers and Engineering M...
by bradleyjg on Friday July 26, 2019 @06:33AM
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If you think you have a reasonable chance to become a Google Fellow or equivalent, then by all means ignore everything I’m saying here.
Re:Square’s Growth Framework for Engineers and Engineering M...
by seattle_spring on Friday July 26, 2019 @11:05AM
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600k is staff level TC, not even close to fellow.
Re:Square’s Growth Framework for Engineers and Engineering M...
by opportune on Friday July 26, 2019 @01:19PM
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Oh really, I guess I was misinformed. Figured that was closer to 500-600. I hadn’t heard of anything well above $700k or so for positions like “Senior Staff”
Re:Square’s Growth Framework for Engineers and Engineering M...
by joshuamorton on Saturday July 27, 2019 @11:10AM
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Well the other piece is that after senior staff there's distinguished and principal, and then fellow.
Re:Square’s Growth Framework for Engineers and Engineering M...
by bradleyjg on Saturday July 27, 2019 @02:50PM
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There are somewhere around 3.5-4 million software engineers in the US. What percent would you say will make $600k TC or more this year?
Re:Square’s Growth Framework for Engineers and Engineering M...
by seattle_spring on Sunday July 28, 2019 @10:57AM
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I was responding directly to a comment referring to Staff Google engineers. So in response to your goalpost moving question, I guess the percent would be (total number of staff engineers or higher at Google) / (your random estimate of the total engineering population)
Re:Square’s Growth Framework for Engineers and Engineering M...
by bradleyjg on Sunday July 28, 2019 @11:56AM
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I’m sure we are all very impressed by your insider knowledge of the details of a tiny portion of the industry irrelevant to most engineers. For the rest of us Google Fellow or equivalent is a reasonable way to sum up the entire niche.
Re:Square’s Growth Framework for Engineers and Engineering M...
by seattle_spring on Sunday July 28, 2019 @11:44PM
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It's not equivalent, unless you think that getting a job at Google, Facebook, Microsoft, or any other reasonably large west-coast company is a "niche" that's completely out of reach for you. "Staff" is not some unattainable level that only a few people per company are lucky enough to break into.
Re:Square’s Growth Framework for Engineers and Engineering M...
by bradleyjg on Friday July 26, 2019 @06:49AM
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There’s the patio11 way of doing things which he’s written plenty about.
But there’s also the more classic knows-where-to-put-the-screw consultant. Something is broken and bleeding money and after being jerked around by underlings for a few weeks some director is desperate to fix it.
There’s are many many companies out there that can be losing tens of thousands of dollars a day or more because something isn’t working.
Re:Square’s Growth Framework for Engineers and Engineering M...
by andrewnc on Thursday July 25, 2019 @11:05PM
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I wonder how many of these shops exist. And if they're mostly solo operations?
Re:Square’s Growth Framework for Engineers and Engineering M...
by lazyasciiart on Friday July 26, 2019 @12:44AM
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McKinsey and such, I expect.
Since you mention "Outside of the top of the IC ladders at the giant tech companies" which is about $600k or thereabouts, I am guessing this means they are billing for about $500/hr-$600/hr? So a week's rate is roughly $20k+. What kind of place is paying software engineer contractors that much?