Square’s Growth Framework for Engineers and Engineering Managers

Re:Square’s Growth Framework for Engineers and Engineering M... by ryandrake on Thursday July 25, 2019 @07:23PM (#20530846)

If a company claims to have “parallel and equal tracks” ask them how many VP equivalent individual contributors they have and how many manager VPs they have. Ask then what the CEO-equivalent individual contributor role entails.

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Re:Square’s Growth Framework for Engineers and Engineering M... by joshuamorton on Friday July 26, 2019 @05:02AM (#20533387)

This gets pretty tricky at some point, because there are a lot of hybrid people. The "standard" image of a VP is someone who has multiple directors reporting to them, and probably 50+ (really 100+) indirect reports. So what about a VP-equivalent with 5 direct reports who are all ICs? That person isn't an IC, but they're also not really a people manager, they're like a really high impact TLM. Do they count more as the first, or the second?

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