Re:US Federal government to resume capital punishment after ...
by happytoexplain on Thursday July 25, 2019 @03:30PM
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>You murder someone... you deserve to be removed from society permanently
I disagree, if only in the sense that I may consider some killings that meet the legal definition of murder to not deserve permanent removal from society.
>You murder [an innocent child]... you deserve to be removed from society permanently
I agree, but, barring practical constraints, killing isn't the only way to do that. It is, unfortunately, the easiest, as well as the most gratifying to many people's sense of bloodlust in regards to people they hate who perhaps are not as evil as child murderers, or perhaps have been wrongly or disproportionately convicted. I think there is a dramatic problem where, more and more, people want to use emotions to dictate laws. If somebody hurt my child badly enough, I'd want them dead - and not just in the heat of the moment. But I'd consider it dystopic to enshrine my pain and emotional need for revenge into law.
>Tax payers should not be spending their hard-earned money keeping the evil murderers alive.
I agree, but I think this problem is one entire tier of gravity down from the decision of whether or not to institutionalize the killing of citizens, and does not have a place in the moral question, which is the interesting and relevant one.
>Full stop.
You're immediately broadcasting an unwillingness to engage and discuss, which I think is antithetical to the spirit of HN.
I disagree, if only in the sense that I may consider some killings that meet the legal definition of murder to not deserve permanent removal from society.
>You murder [an innocent child]... you deserve to be removed from society permanently
I agree, but, barring practical constraints, killing isn't the only way to do that. It is, unfortunately, the easiest, as well as the most gratifying to many people's sense of bloodlust in regards to people they hate who perhaps are not as evil as child murderers, or perhaps have been wrongly or disproportionately convicted. I think there is a dramatic problem where, more and more, people want to use emotions to dictate laws. If somebody hurt my child badly enough, I'd want them dead - and not just in the heat of the moment. But I'd consider it dystopic to enshrine my pain and emotional need for revenge into law.
>Tax payers should not be spending their hard-earned money keeping the evil murderers alive.
I agree, but I think this problem is one entire tier of gravity down from the decision of whether or not to institutionalize the killing of citizens, and does not have a place in the moral question, which is the interesting and relevant one.
>Full stop.
You're immediately broadcasting an unwillingness to engage and discuss, which I think is antithetical to the spirit of HN.