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Re:What If Consciousness Comes First? by post_below on Thursday July 25, 2019 @12:47AM (#20522627)
It's true that it isn't something we can say definitively. It's more than a philosophical belief, however.

There isn't any evidence that there is anything happening that's not biological despite 1000's of years of searching for that evidence.

And there is all kinds of evidence that biological processes can explain our experience. More all the time.

It's not definitive in the sense that we're anywhere near completely understanding our biology.

But it's the most likely explanation, given what we do know, but such a huge margin that there is no real alternative explanation outside of mythology.

Re:What If Consciousness Comes First? by friendlybus on Thursday July 25, 2019 @02:18AM (#20523041)
>There isn't any evidence that there is anything happening that's not biological despite 1000's of years of searching for that evidence.

Do you consider software in a computer to be mechanical? You could record the 1010101 in an electricity stream and conclude there is no meaning to that electricity beyond getting from point A to point B in a chip.

Re:What If Consciousness Comes First? by thrwwya3947 on Thursday July 25, 2019 @12:53AM (#20522652)
they could always discover the wireless soul organ in the brain, which connects us to the cloud, where the real thinking happens. did they even look?

/s

Re:What If Consciousness Comes First? by c0vfefe on Friday July 26, 2019 @01:40PM (#20536597)
> There isn't any evidence that there is anything happening that's not biological despite 1000's of years of searching for that evidence.

If we're looking for something supernatural like a soul, then we shouldn't expect to see natural evidence. Thus the lack of that evidence does not imply its nonexistence. Relevant xkcd: https://www.xkcd.com/638/

Re:What If Consciousness Comes First? by post_below on Tuesday August 06, 2019 @03:29AM (#20622988)
We have no evidence that supernatural is even a thing.

Sure you can say that our lack of evidence means nothing since we don't have the capability, through natural laws, to acquire that evidence.

But that's just another way of justifying faith as a rational argument.

The only reason we have to believe in the supernatural is mythology. And the only reason we have to believe mythology is faith (and fear).

Re:What If Consciousness Comes First? by c0vfefe on Thursday August 08, 2019 @10:27AM (#20644883)
I'd encourage you to examine some of the many arguments for the supernatural that have been discussed for many years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CulBuMCLg0