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Re:What it’s like to own an electric car by Lendal on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @09:28PM (#20511663)
For an electrician to install an outlet in your garage is TWO THOUSAND DOLLARS?! If you paid that, you got mega ripped off. That's an order of magnitude greater than it should cost.
Re:What it’s like to own an electric car by dawnerd on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @09:39PM (#20511731)
I was quoted 650 just for the NEMA 14-30, no evse or permit fee included. New construction, the panel is literally right next to where the plug would go. That still seems high. Last time I had an electrician install a plug it was 175 with running new line to the other side of the garage.

I think these electricians hear "EV" and think the person asking for the work has a ton of cash.

Re:What it’s like to own an electric car by GlenTheMachine on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @09:33PM (#20511691)
No. At least not in my case. The electrician had to install an extra breaker in an auxiliary box in the basement, then run 30 feet of conduit to get the 240v line out of the house. The price of having a charger installed varies tremendously depending on where it needs to go and where your house’s breaker box is located relative to that.
Re:What it’s like to own an electric car by derekp7 on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @09:59PM (#20511823)
You know, conduit is less than $3.50 for a 10 ft section last I bought some. Fittings are another dollar or so each, and I can't see 30 ft of copper wire costing 2 grand. So you are paying mostly for the electrification's time. If there is a lot more work involved, and if I lived in an area where I wasn't allowed to do my own electrical work, I'd at least dig the trench myself and take care of pounding a whole through the foundation wall if needed.
Re:What it’s like to own an electric car by GlenTheMachine on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @10:26PM (#20511948)
There’s no question I was paying for his time. I’ll do my own electrical, mostly, but not 240. That stuff will kill you.
Re:What it’s like to own an electric car by icebraining on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @06:04AM (#20513675)
That's a bit paranoid; plenty of Europeans with our 220V lines do our own electrical, and there are very few domestic deaths by electrocution.
Re:What it’s like to own an electric car by ben_bai on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @06:47AM (#20513854)
Nitpicking: 230V +-10%, so on a good day it can be as high as 253V.

But yes most people will work on it for their own, but shy away from 400V outlets.

Re:What it’s like to own an electric car by Symbiote on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @09:10AM (#20514854)
I think that's just familiarity.

I've used 400V outlets, as they're the standard outlet in a European datacentre (for the UPS or PDU). Most people don't use them, and can be a bit uncomfortable even touching them.

I can understand Americans also being fairly unfamiliar with a 240V outlet, taking more care with it, and preferring to employ a professional to install one.

Re:What it’s like to own an electric car by ben_bai on Saturday July 27, 2019 @04:49PM (#20544106)
It's just 3 phases with 230V each, which gives you 400V across individual phases. Same safety rules apply as on standard outlets, so yes, it really is just familiarity. Also lots of European households do have 400V outlets (we have 2 in our house, basement and garage). I even installed one temporarily in my living room for construction/remodeling and working with the required thick wires they are unconfortable to work with.
Re:What it’s like to own an electric car by hackeraccount on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @11:08AM (#20515983)
"very few".

Well, that's a comfort.

Re:What it’s like to own an electric car by mceachen on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @10:21PM (#20511932)
I paid $400 for a 20 amp outlet installed in my garage (on the same wall as the main breaker box). The charger itself cost ~$500.

$2000 might be justified if they needed to replace the main breaker box because the house was older or they were putting in a higher amp outlet.

Re:What it’s like to own an electric car by erikpukinskis on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @09:56PM (#20511811)
The devil is in the details.