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Re:Want to hire the best programmers? Offer growth by RNeff on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @01:56PM (#20508732)
Offer a quiet, private office. Two or more monitors. Free snacks and free lunches. Modern software stack (whatever that is).

Or full-time remote.

Re:Want to hire the best programmers? Offer growth by aczerepinski on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @03:04PM (#20509270)
I’m 80-90% remote, and it’s such a huge lifestyle perk that I’d need at least a 50% pay bump to even consider anything in the city. I hope this becomes more and more the norm for tech jobs because everyone deserves ample time with their family and friends.

For me now the baseline is remote + good work life balance and vacation package.

If we can throw exciting tech, more money, etc on top of that, great.

Re:Want to hire the best programmers? Offer growth by avgDev on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @04:40PM (#20510001)
I can't imagine not having any remote days in the week. Unfortunately, many enterprise jobs in my area expect people in their seat 8 hours a day, 5 days a week.

I'm hoping to polish my skills and eventually find something 100% remote even if its less thank $100k. I want to buy a lake front house, and get on a jetski/boat during my lunch break.

Re:Want to hire the best programmers? Offer growth by Consultant32452 on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @03:17AM (#20512977)
I'm 100% remote working full time for a household name financial company. I'm making $150k, plus 6 weeks vacation, 401k match, etc. I'm in process negotiating a consulting gig that will pay a little over $300k that is also 100% remote. That one is a corp to corp contract, not an employee position.

Hang in there, you'll find your spot. My advice would be to make friends with a few recruiters for the big headhunting firms. With a little patience for terrible signal to noise ratio they should help you break the $100k mark for remote work. Sometimes you gotta shop around for the right recruiters. The first person you talk to is probably not the person with the right contacts.

Re:Want to hire the best programmers? Offer growth by linuxftw on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @09:35PM (#20511706)
Many people I know work full time remote and the pay is well over $100k. Just keep at it, maybe start putting your resume out there.
Re:Want to hire the best programmers? Offer growth by ConcernedCoder on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @01:59PM (#20508769)
+ for full time remote ( I can deal with everything else, but commuting just feels so antiquated now... we ARE living in the digital age right? )
Re:Want to hire the best programmers? Offer growth by holy_city on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @02:21PM (#20508939)
I'm holding out for cities on the carbon neutral push to offer subsidies for full remote work. Cheapest way to reduce carbon emissions is to get cars off the road, cheapest way to do that is to remove the need to travel.
Re:Want to hire the best programmers? Offer growth by chernov on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @03:21PM (#20509417)
As a full-time remote worker myself, I absolutely double that. It is so much more effective and better in almost [1] every way.

[1] The socialization might suffer a bit, but you are able to fix that as you wish instead of having only one option (which is office).

Re:Want to hire the best programmers? Offer growth by wysifnwyg on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @01:58PM (#20508760)
I'd be overjoyed for even a single remote day a week. Give me the four day at-work week.
Re:Want to hire the best programmers? Offer growth by v-erne on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @03:07AM (#20512936)
I'm guessing that You dont have kids :) I would say the same few years ago, but having young children now causes that I have nowhere to work at home that is relatively peacefull and quiet.
Re:Want to hire the best programmers? Offer growth by softawre on Thursday July 25, 2019 @12:12PM (#20526593)
You need a bigger house with an office. At my house, I use the finished basement as the office and it works very well.
Re:Want to hire the best programmers? Offer growth by oldman123456789 on Wednesday July 24, 2019 @06:44AM (#20513839)
I second that :P
Re:Want to hire the best programmers? Offer growth by _r2gl on Tuesday July 23, 2019 @09:52PM (#20511796)
I've been full time remote for four months now. To even get me to drive a mile to work would require a significant bump in salary and options to lose out on this quality of life. It's almost unrealistic at this point that I would ever consider going to work in an office again.

I save a BUNCH of money, I get to work with other remote employees across the world, I mostly work my own hours, and I even got a decent bump switching to this job.

The pay is better than a lot of positions that are local to me in SoCal.

I do miss some social interactions during the day, but slack and getting lunch with friends and previous co-workers fills that gap decent enough.

I see job postings come across all the time in my filters for stack overflow jobs, but the pay and benefits are equivalent to my current situation, except I would have to move to a higher CoL and go into an office.