I feel the same way. If I could find another tech forum where I could find topics like this and discuss them without hearing from anti-media conspiracy theorists I would join it in a heartbeat.

Even just a view of HN comments without having to weed out the threads complaining about fake news would be great. I bet it's not so hard to train a classifier to identify comments that amount to "This article is paid for by short sellers". They all make the same point and never address the issues in the article.