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Re:If this type of dark matter existed, people would be dyin... by ben_w on Sunday July 21, 2019 @01:33PM (#20492490)
Hm. They claim to have zero unexplained gunshot-like injuries in Canada, the United States, and Western Europe over a ten year period. I find this hard to believe. Even if every gun injury was currently attributed to an identifiable shooter (a claim which would itself surprise me) miscarriages of justice are a known thing and people do get convictions overturned.

It’s still an interesting idea, but where did “none” come from?

Re:If this type of dark matter existed, people would be dyin... by msbarnett on Sunday July 21, 2019 @01:59PM (#20492654)
The article alludes to the answer, but the paper is linked in the article, and answers this more preciselyat the beginning:

> Hence their destructive effect is likely to be qualitatively different from that of a bullet; a macro impact typically heats the cylinder of tissue carved out along its path to a temperature of 10^7 K[18, 19], resulting in an expanding cylinder of plasma inside the body. While some studies have been done on collisions of hypersonic, micron-sized projectiles with fixed targets[23], these differed significantly from macro collisions in that the experimental projectiles were of much lower density, and the targets were “hard” rather than “soft”. Nonetheless, it is reasonable to take the kinetic energy deposited by a macro as a threshold for significant damage to the human body. Energy con- servation requires that the macro energy ultimately be deposited in the body in some form, whether mechanical or thermal, which will result in an equivalent amount of damage.

Victims would look they’d been shot with a laser bullet out of sci-fi. As is mentioned in the article, they found no evidence of bullet wounds that also featured vaporization of tissue.

> These deaths would not go unnoticed—they would leave victims dead or dying with a tubular wound where their flesh was vaporized.

Re:If this type of dark matter existed, people would be dyin... by tomatotomato37 on Sunday July 21, 2019 @02:28PM (#20492843)
Presumably odd angles of entry would also be a clue. A shot that enters near verically while the victim was standing would be extremely unusual in a one-story building if you aren't expecting the "bullet" to have come from space
Re:If this type of dark matter existed, people would be dyin... by pure-awesome on Monday July 22, 2019 @02:58AM (#20495848)
Also, wouldn't there be a tunnel all the way from the top of the building and through the person?

People would wonder if a government agency wasn't using some sort of drone or satellite weapon to eliminate targets.

Re:If this type of dark matter existed, people would be dyin... by ramshorns on Sunday July 21, 2019 @02:44PM (#20492939)
> heats the tissue to a temperature of 107 K In case this confused anyone else, it should be 10^7 K, ten million degrees.
Re:If this type of dark matter existed, people would be dyin... by msbarnett on Sunday July 21, 2019 @03:01PM (#20493033)
Cheers, the caret got lost in the copy paste
Re:If this type of dark matter existed, people would be dyin... by p1mrx on Sunday July 21, 2019 @04:29PM (#20493473)
I think copy-paste implementations should be changed to insert a space when the input text changes height like that.
Re:If this type of dark matter existed, people would be dyin... by ben_w on Sunday July 21, 2019 @02:03PM (#20492691)
Thanks, I’d read but not understood the implications there.
Re:If this type of dark matter existed, people would be dyin... by magicalhippo on Sunday July 21, 2019 @01:40PM (#20492529)
An actual gunshot-injury would would necessarily leave an entry wound.

The dark matter particle they searched for would, if it exists, would enter the body undetected and interact inside the body, producing the gunshot-like damage inside the body, and I guess likely an exit wound, without any entry wound.

That's basically how the current dark matter searches work that I know of, albeit with different media than a human body.

Re:If this type of dark matter existed, people would be dyin... by ben_w on Sunday July 21, 2019 @02:01PM (#20492672)
If you were a doctor or a forensics pathologist, and saw a hole in a body, how much evidence would you need to convince yourself that this was caused by something occurring inside and work its way outwards, rather defaulting to thinking its was caused by something outside that went in?

This isn’t a rhetorical question by the way, I genuinely do not know if the mere absence of a bullet at the deep end would be sufficient, or if entrance and exit wounds look so radically different from each other that no one could possibly mistake one for the other.

Re:If this type of dark matter existed, people would be dyin... by pmichaud on Sunday July 21, 2019 @03:17PM (#20493117)
I know nothing, wild speculation follows.

I'm pretty sure it's "easy" to tell an entrance from an exit, especially with a hollow point bullet (basically like an explosion out of the exit). Even without the explosion thing, I'd be shocked to learn that there are not tell-tale signs because an object pushing inward at a high speed will leave the tissue at certain angles, like maybe the soft tissue caved a little inward around the entrance, the bones broken in the direction the bullet was traveling, that sort of thing.

But all those thing depend on the object being ballistic, like a fast moving object flying through the body. With a "laser beam" sort of wound, I'm not sure any of that would apply.

I assume that looking at a wound caused by a laser would be pretty baffling -- a roughly cylindrical, cauterized void with no apparent directionality. Even if the cause wasn't clear, I think it would look weird enough for a professional to say "Wait, something is super weird here."

Re:If this type of dark matter existed, people would be dyin... by arethuza on Sunday July 21, 2019 @04:10PM (#20493370)
I read an autobiography of a forensics pathologist recently and he spent a lot of time obsessing about the shape of wounds (to the point of upsetting his family by stabbing their Sunday roasts so he could inspect the resulting wounds).

[The book is "Unnatural Causes" by Dr Richard Shepherd - strongly recommended even if it is just a wee bit gruesome in places.]

Re:If this type of dark matter existed, people would be dyin... by zaarn on Monday July 22, 2019 @02:37AM (#20495769)
Considering that the wound would be heated to 10^7K, it'll likely create a very unique type of hole in the body.
Re:If this type of dark matter existed, people would be dyin... by NikolaeVarius on Sunday July 21, 2019 @02:02PM (#20492678)
I dont understand why you claim gunshots necessarily leave an entry wound.

Massive amounts of research was done to prevent bullets from doing exactly that.

Re:If this type of dark matter existed, people would be dyin... by dasm on Sunday July 21, 2019 @02:09PM (#20492729)
Have you reversed "entry" and "exit," or is this a reference to something like the CIA's alleged heart attack gun?
Re:If this type of dark matter existed, people would be dyin... by SideburnsOfDoom on Sunday July 21, 2019 @04:09PM (#20493364)
> zero unexplained gunshot-like injuries in Canada, the United States, and Western Europe over a ten year period. I find this hard to believe.

If this was a thing, it would presumably be constant throughout history, even before guns were invented. Heck, you'd see it as cause of death in fossilized dinosaurs.