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Re:Puffer – Stream live TV in the browser by aiddun on Sunday July 21, 2019 @11:18AM (#20491677)
> What channels can I watch? Puffer re-transmits free over-the-air broadcast television signals received by an antenna located on the campus of Stanford University.

Is this legal? Aereo [0] had to shut down because broadcasters sued them for streaming OTA TV signals, which went all the way to the Supreme Court where they lost. Aereo even had an antennae per customer.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aereo

Re:Puffer – Stream live TV in the browser by mrstone on Sunday July 21, 2019 @12:51PM (#20492224)
In the paper:

Our study benefits, in part, from a law that allows nonprofit organizations to retransmit over-the-air television signals without charge.

Re:Puffer – Stream live TV in the browser by toomuchtodo on Sunday July 21, 2019 @11:25AM (#20491717)
> Is this legal?

If it's not for profit and geoconstrained, yes.

https://www.broadcastingcable.com/news/nonprofit-launches-ny...

https://www.locast.org/

Re:Puffer – Stream live TV in the browser by chacha2 on Sunday July 21, 2019 @12:07PM (#20491962)
It's 'geoconstrained' by just giving you a tick box that says you're in America. I wish all geoconstraits were that lazy.
Re:Puffer – Stream live TV in the browser by T1glober on Sunday July 21, 2019 @01:09PM (#20492344)
Incidentally, crypto exchanges in the past (and one very recently, known as Bitmex) have faced issues with US authorities regarding this. Context: US citizens cannot trade unless the exchange is US-licensed.

Essentially, US gov applied pressure such that a simple tick box (to prove you are not American) is not sufficient. So, authorities definitely have precedent to enforce geo-constraints, it's just a matter of "do they care".

Re:Puffer – Stream live TV in the browser by jrockway on Sunday July 21, 2019 @07:19PM (#20494301)
I'm guessing that these broadcasters will be happy to go from 0 to 500 viewers. YouTube hasn't killed them quite yet!
Re:Puffer – Stream live TV in the browser by bitcollector on Sunday July 21, 2019 @01:32PM (#20492479)
live in San Jose but my VPN terminates in Canada, along with all of my DNS queries, so the geofencing is really weak ;)

The video quality is really amazing.

Re:Puffer – Stream live TV in the browser by rnotaro on Sunday July 21, 2019 @04:04PM (#20493336)
It does not verify your location beside if you check the checkbox.
Re:Puffer – Stream live TV in the browser by aiddun on Sunday July 21, 2019 @11:32AM (#20491759)
Wow, that's really interesting. You would think this wouldn't be okay with channels because it's still depriving them of cable retransmission fees. Looks like they just got a $500,000 donation from AT&T.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/streaming-service-challenges-br...

Re:Puffer – Stream live TV in the browser by cosmie on Sunday July 21, 2019 @08:01PM (#20494488)
AT&T has more to gain than lose by this being successful, since they pay out billions in retransmission fees. They're already playing hardball on retransmission agreements recently, with the current CBS blackout being only the latest example[1].

AT&T added Locast to both their DirecTV and Uverse TV receivers[2], which limits the impact radius of the blackouts that are resulting from their strong-arm tactics. And in the case of DirectTV's receiver, it's a pretty seemless process as the blacked-out channels in the guide automatically redirect you to the equivalent channel in the Locast app.

A $500k donation for such convenient leverage is chump change, considering the billions of dollars that are on the line with these retransmission agreements.

[1] https://deadline.com/2019/07/cbs-blackout-directv-u-verse-at...

[2] https://www.broadcastingcable.com/news/at-t-locast-is-option...

Re:Puffer – Stream live TV in the browser by toomuchtodo on Sunday July 21, 2019 @08:30PM (#20494599)
That’s brilliant. TIL!