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Re:Why wasn't this page found? by benj111 on Sunday July 21, 2019 @09:02AM (#20491145)
I'm surprised by the downvotes for this. There are downsides to using Javascript for everything, so it isn't a free lunch.

Move fast and break things is increasingly less defensible for what is a mature technology that the world relies on. And Moores Law is a thing of the past, it isn't really tenable to just take the view that hardware will 'fix' your performance problems. Then there are the security and accessibility considerations.

I suppose Javascript is the single use plastic of the digital world. In its place there aren't really any good alternatives, that doesn't mean you should use it everywhere.

Re:Why wasn't this page found? by jsmeaton on Sunday July 21, 2019 @09:57AM (#20491334)
It’s being downvoted because it’s a boring tired comment that adds nothing new. These discussions are had in nearly every thread.
Re:Why wasn't this page found? by benj111 on Sunday July 21, 2019 @11:02AM (#20491584)
I wouldn't say every thread at all, but maybe we read different kinds of submissions.

Plus many things are repeated ad infinituum. I can guarantee any discussion on wind power will have someone saying we should be going nuclear. Every discussion on electric cars will devolve to a discussion on Elon Musks personality, every discussion on facebook will lead to a mention on privacy. People have opinions, they've come here to express them, most of it will retread old ground, if there was nothing new to add, 90% of submissions could just be linked to the original discussion, that isnt what happens, (although old threads are generally linked to) so it seems reasonable if we're going to re-have all the other discussions, to re-have this discussion.

And finally, it seems to be the rule that to be downvoted, an opinion has to be wrong and/or offensive. So if there is a downvoted comment that seems to be neither I'll then take the time to find out if I was wrong, so for me, downvoting comments that you just don't want to read, just adds noise. I'll admit that that's personal to me, and its entirely likely that others see downvotes differently, that is an annoying consequence of votes being such blunt instruments.

Re:Why wasn't this page found? by tempguy9999 on Sunday July 21, 2019 @01:30PM (#20492469)
This sidesteps the truth of my point. Rebut me with arguments, not petulant downvotes. If you have no arguments, maybe, just maybe, you're wrong.
Re:Why wasn't this page found? by scarejunba on Sunday July 21, 2019 @02:36PM (#20492905)
Sometimes you're right but also irrelevant. For instance, if I started posting "2+2=4 and 1+1=2 and addition is associative so 1+1+1+1=4" then I'm right but also useless. So the correctness is irrelevant to the discussion.

We don't live long enough to examine every true argument. It is important to us to filter to useful ones. In that respect, starting the JS debate is the equivalent of starting a neovim vs xemacs debate, both of which are like chewing gum that's got all the flavour gone in the first hour.

Re:Why wasn't this page found? by tempguy9999 on Sunday July 21, 2019 @02:48PM (#20492963)
Your maths example is incontestably true so no-one would waste time debating it.

Claiming js is essential to all modern browsing is not true and I am contesting it because in practice its use opens up bloody great security holes.

And you are still not addressing my obvious and relevant point, that not using js closes those holes. Stop downvoting and explain why you think compromising browsing safety is your right.