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Re:Part of Ham Radio AMPRnet IPv4 Space Sold to Amazon by cereal_console on Friday July 19, 2019 @02:34AM (#20476599)
A response I saw on the 44net mailing list:

  On 7/18/19 10:57 PM, Majdi S. Abbas wrote:

  What's interesting about this is it was not an ARIN allocation, 
  and the ARDC folks are not the original registrant.  This IANA /8 was
  initially delegated to a community, not an organization.

  So, to the individuals listed in the blog, that I've excerpted
  below, what do you have to say about this?

  Brian Kantor
  kc claffy
  Phil Karn
  Paul Vixie
I find it interesting how AMPR can sell these IPs vs leasing them.

The community (including myself) only learned of the sale when 44/8 reverse DNS lookups returned NXDOMAIN today. There was no consultation with the community. The decision was made in private by the four listed above.

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Re:Part of Ham Radio AMPRnet IPv4 Space Sold to Amazon by zifnab06 on Friday July 19, 2019 @03:17AM (#20476760)
It actually predates that even - rfc790 defines it as AMPRNET as part of ARPANET in 1981.

I spent a bit of time tonight trying to find the old pre-ARIN iana/isif Usenet group and failed. I'd imagine a list that predates ARIN would have some interesting history around this. ARIN's history has the net block assigned by IANA in 1992-07, but their records only show it in existence from 1996.

Additionally, ARDC (the nonprofit that currently owns 44/8) was only registered as such in 2011.

I'll keep looking when I have time.

[1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc790

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Re:Part of Ham Radio AMPRnet IPv4 Space Sold to Amazon by cereal_console on Friday July 19, 2019 @01:37PM (#20480780)
Great work on this! NANOG has a good thread going (as one can imagine...). Good post here: https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2019-July/102131.h...
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Re:Part of Ham Radio AMPRnet IPv4 Space Sold to Amazon by icedchai on Friday July 19, 2019 @08:53AM (#20478208)
Possession is 9/10ths of the law, right? Whoever is listed as the whois contact has control.
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