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Re:H-1B: Federal judge backs government’s narrower view of ‘... by rayiner on Thursday July 18, 2019 @05:53PM (#20474269)
An H1-B visa holder is, under the statute, a "non-immigrant alien" who is "temporarily" in the United States to perform a specialized occupation. 8 USC 1101(a)(15)(H)(1)(b). The fact that it's tied to a specific job is by design. H1-B is not intended to be an immigration path for skilled workers. (The fact that it is often used that way is just a by-product of the fact that the U.S. allows almost all non-short-term visa holders to apply for a green card. But H1-B was not created as a stepping stone toward that process, and its requirements are not really geared toward making it easy to serve as a "staging" ground for green card applicants.)

Does the U.S. need a real skilled immigrant visa? Maybe. That's really a separate question.

Re:H-1B: Federal judge backs government’s narrower view of ‘... by Bhilai on Thursday July 18, 2019 @06:04PM (#20474377)
> Nonimmigrants in H-1B or L-1 status can be the beneficiary of an immigrant visa petition, apply for adjustment of status, or take other steps toward Lawful Permanent Resident status without affecting their status. This is known as "dual intent" and has been recognized in immigration law since passage of the Immigration Act of 1990.

https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/USCIS/About%20Us/E...

Re:H-1B: Federal judge backs government’s narrower view of ‘... by rayiner on Thursday July 18, 2019 @06:13PM (#20474435)
You’re mixing up two different things. “Dual intent” just means that you don’t lose your eligibility for a temporary status visa (which requires you to have intent to return to your home country) by filing for a green card. It basically allows you to express cognitive dissonance about your immigration intentions. That does not mean that the H1-B visa itself is not a temporary visa. The H1-B program itself remains designed for temporary workers.
Re:H-1B: Federal judge backs government’s narrower view of ‘... by Bhilai on Thursday July 18, 2019 @06:47PM (#20474704)
Oh I see, thanks for the correction.
Re:H-1B: Federal judge backs government’s narrower view of ‘... by winter_blue on Saturday July 20, 2019 @04:06PM (#20488010)
Congress explicitly intended for the H-1B to be a stepping stone to an employment-based immigrant visa. Why? Two reasons:

(A) Prior to 1990, the processing times for employment-based immigrant visas were in the order of a few years. Practically speaking, no employer ever sponsored someone for an EB green card if they weren't already working for them at an office abroad. Congress wanted to provide a practical pathway for skilled immigration. The quote "non-immigrant" H, L, O, are explicitly intended to be stepping stones to permanent residence. Look up the Congressional record on this matter (ie debates on the 1990 Act) . There were also some articles from the Cato Institute elucidating this, but I don't remember their names.

(B) The original 1990 bill explicitly exempted H, L, O visa holders from having "non-immigrant" intent. The fact that folks on H, L, O are "non-immigrants" is an accident of how the Immigration and Nationality (INA) is structured. If you're not required to maintain "non-immigrant intent", and are explicitly allowed to call the United States your home by the law (specifically, the INA) you are in no sense a "non-immigrant". The later AC21 bill went further and made people waiting with approved employment-based green card applications, exempt from the 6-year H-1B limit.

Finally, it is insulting and degrading to be called a "non-immigrant" when you have lived for over 10 years in the U.S., by people who have no understanding how the system works, like yourself. I'm trying to be less triggered by comments like yours on HN, but it's difficult. I have to say that based on your commenting history here, I've noticed a very clear pattern of xenophobia, so even if you did understand how horrid the US system is, you'd still likely enjoy insulting people who've lived here for 15 or 20 years, by calling them "non-immigrants". But that's your prerogative/freedom. TBH, despite being a lawyer, rayiner, you have no knowledge of the legislative history of the INA, and shoot out falsehoods from your mouth, with an air of authority. I don't know what causes you (or caused you) to be so incredibly hateful towards immigrants, and I don't really care why either. But please don't turn HN into such a hostile place for non-citizens living and working in the US. I remember reading your comment from a month or so ago, where you called Canada's immigration policy "ruthless". That's a degrading term (towards Canada). I think their skilled immigration policy is the best in the world. Canada is a country that values skilled immigrants, and treats them with respect and dignity. I deeply wish the US had an immigration system similar to Canada's. But it doesn't. Canada is doing something good. But you chose to insult them for it. Canada's immigration system is the best in the world, and it actually allows a skilled person to get permanent residence quickly, and doesn't force you to spend a 10+ years on visas with limited rights, freedoms, etc. So please don't insult Canada. And ironically, while I can make $200k+ in the US, I am tempted by the freedom that Canada offers, despite lower pay there. It's unfortunately all-too-common for anti-immigrant folk on HN to paint all people on work visas (H, L, O, etc) as working for bad employers, or being thoroughly underpaid -- but this is rooted entirely in ignorance (or in willful dishonesty). My base salary is $140k+ which is an "OES Level 4 Wage", and I've made over $200k with bonuses in the past. Then there's folks like throwaway082729 who make $650k/yr: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20473537 When xenophobic people on HN are confronted by facts like this, it causes them cognitive dissonance, and throws into muddy water the foundation for their hatred for immigrants. And what happens? They simply downvote. They can't accept the fact that everything they've believed about skilled immigrants (e.g. being low-paid) is utterly false. Please don't be like that. Please try to be a better person.

Re:H-1B: Federal judge backs government’s narrower view of ‘... by pandaman on Thursday July 18, 2019 @06:54PM (#20474746)
There are not one, but two immigrant visas for skilled immigrants already. EB1A and EB2-NIW. No need to find a sponsoring employer, no requirement to prove that there are no qualified Americans, no salary requirements, almost no backlog even for people born in India and China, at least for the former.

It's the visa to get for the so-called "best and brightest". Of course, the catch is that you need to be really skilled and be able to prove it.

Re:H-1B: Federal judge backs government’s narrower view of ‘... by copperx on Thursday July 18, 2019 @08:56PM (#20475391)
And you must not be here on a non-immigrant Visa. You need a dual-intent compatible visa such as H1B.
Re:H-1B: Federal judge backs government’s narrower view of ‘... by pandaman on Thursday July 18, 2019 @09:14PM (#20475463)
This is incorrect: you don't need to be in the US at all to apply for any immigrant visa. I believe the Indian body shops perpetuate the fictitious idea that, similarly to naturalization, there is also a required time to be present in the country before being eligible for a GC. While I can see how it fits into their business model, it could not be further from the reality. Not only there is no required time to be in the country but there is no requirement to be in the country at all in order to obtain an immigrant visa - it can be all done in the home country and you can enter the US as an LPR without ever setting foot there before.
Re:H-1B: Federal judge backs government’s narrower view of ‘... by copperx on Friday July 19, 2019 @12:59AM (#20476293)
Yes, that's true. But what I meant was that if you're in the US, you need to have a dual-intent visa.
Re:H-1B: Federal judge backs government’s narrower view of ‘... by pandaman on Friday July 19, 2019 @01:26AM (#20476377)
This is also incorrect. You can adjust into immigration status from any legal status in general, there might be different complications depending on status (e.g. you might not be able to leave and re-enter the country in some or you need to follow 30/60/90 rule with others) but there is no requirement to be in a dual intent status for AOS. If worse comes to worst you can always do consular processing and only leave the US to stamp your immigration visa in a foreign consulate and re-enter in the new immigrant status.

The "dual intent" concept is for the non-immigrant visa. If you don't want to read the official explanation, posted around here many times already, it means that you don't have to prove strong ties with your country when applying for such a visa. For visas without dual intent you have to prove the lack of immigration intent. For dual intent ones you don't.

Re:H-1B: Federal judge backs government’s narrower view of ‘... by copperx on Friday July 19, 2019 @12:34PM (#20480106)
You are completely right and I now realize that I worded my comment poorly. You are right in that you don't have to have a dual intent visa to apply, but take my case as an example. I'm in the US on a non-immigrant work visa, but I haven't applied for EB2-NIW because I know that if I get denied, then I would have proved intention to immigrate and getting another non-immigrant visa will be close to impossible.

I wouldn't have that problem if I was on, say, an H1B Visa.

Re:H-1B: Federal judge backs government’s narrower view of ‘... by pandaman on Friday July 19, 2019 @07:23PM (#20483237)
Well, if your immigration petition had been denied while on H1B you wouldn't be able to extend it past 6 years and for most H1Bs, whose bodyshops file for GC at the latest date possible, it would mean going home right away or, at best, at the end of their last one year extension. I am not a lawyer and might be overlooking something obvious, but I can't imagine a situation where going through a non-immigrant visa (even such as H1B or any other dual intent) and AOS had been somehow better than straight immigrant visa if you intended to immigrate and have qualifications for a non-sponsored GC.
Re:H-1B: Federal judge backs government’s narrower view of ‘... by m_samuel_l on Thursday July 18, 2019 @05:58PM (#20474310)
H1B is a dual intent visa