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Re:Jony Ive’s Mistakes: When Beautiful Design Is Bad Design by wastedhours on Monday July 15, 2019 @06:48AM (#20439548)
I'm not usually an Apple apologist, but I appreciate their tenacity in trying to turn beautiful visual design into genuinely functional design.

They might fail at it, but it feels like they put a stake in the sand, and then run to get there. Sometimes they trip up and don't get there (Magic Mouse 2, "you're holding it wrong"), and sometimes they do (MBPr, Watch, several iterations of iPhone).

I don't have the disposable income to fund said tenacity at the bleeding edge (in case they do trip), but my iPad Mini v2 and MBPr are both examples of a product they doubled-down on and got right from both ends.

Re:Jony Ive’s Mistakes: When Beautiful Design Is Bad Design by Technetium_Hat on Monday July 15, 2019 @10:56AM (#20441392)
Macbook pro right from both ends? I guess we're ignoring that - the keyboards don't work - the touchbar exists - all the thermal issues it has had
Re:Jony Ive’s Mistakes: When Beautiful Design Is Bad Design by wastedhours on Monday July 15, 2019 @11:09AM (#20441509)
Sorry for my shorthand, but "MBPr" is usually used to refer to "Macbook Pro Retina", so the c.2015 model. That one they very much got right from a usability and aesthetic perspective.