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Re:Landfill is underrated and recycling overrated by Liron on Sunday July 14, 2019 @02:31PM (#20434986)
Yeah, hybrid cars might be called a "local maximum"... at best.

"Local" because they were always predictably a technological dead end.

"Maximum" because they maybe gave us a slight improvement in fuel efficiency, although gas-efficient internal combustion engine cars may have been the more energy-efficient option all along when you consider the up-front cost and maintenance complexity of hybrid cars' dual engines.

The only thing we know for sure about hybrid cars is that Toyota successfully profited from selling people's self-image about being more energy efficient. But since we also have Tesla in the market, selling the actual solution to the problem of gas-burning transportation, absolutely no one should be buying hybrids.

Re:Landfill is underrated and recycling overrated by bdamm on Sunday July 14, 2019 @07:45PM (#20437004)
Toyota was selling mass-produced plug-in "hybrids" and Nissan was selling 100mi range 100% electric Leafs before Tesla had even produced the Model S. Yes, Tesla made them sexy, but Toyota, Nissan, and even Ford & GM did the very early path-finding that I think we needed in order to move ahead with the technology and get to the point where people would feel comfortable considering them at all.
Re:Landfill is underrated and recycling overrated by Tagbert on Sunday July 14, 2019 @11:53PM (#20438007)
"maintenance complexity of hybrid cars' dual engines"

This is an oft repeated accusation by people who only know the concept of hybrids and have no actual experience with them.

The electrical system of hybrids are inherently low maintenance and the gasoline engines run under very low stress conditions for an engine. The result is that the gasoline engine needs much less maintenance. And the brakes are barely used.

Re:Landfill is underrated and recycling overrated by dgacmu on Tuesday July 16, 2019 @05:57AM (#20448723)
This is not correct. It depends quite a bit on commute patterns and electricity source:

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/11/4/04...

The Prius is a better option from a lifecycle CO2 perspective in many places than either a high efficiency conventional vehicle or a pure battery-electric vehicle. That changes if your electricity comes from more renewable sources -- California, for example. Shorter commutes favor small battery packs or no batteries at all.