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Re:Insects feel persistent pain after injury, evidence suggests by gupe on Sunday July 14, 2019 @02:17AM (#20431956)
I wonder if one could make a case for having to be more humane in insect farming? Current practices include steaming and crushing insects to death.

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Re:Insects feel persistent pain after injury, evidence suggests by linnaeus on Sunday July 14, 2019 @09:02AM (#20433142)
Brian Tomasik argues that we should avoid insect farming entirely since it's likely worse (ethically speaking) than farming larger nonhuman animals:

> Entomophagy (eating insects for food) is sometimes proposed as an alternative to factory farming because it has lower environmental impact. But entomophagy is not necessarily more humane than factory farming of livestock all things considered, and along some dimensions it's actually worse, because it involves killing vastly more animals per unit of protein. Rather than promoting insect consumption, let's focus on plant-based meat substitutes.

https://reducing-suffering.org/why-i-dont-support-eating-ins...

Re:Insects feel persistent pain after injury, evidence suggests by iams- on Sunday July 14, 2019 @01:34PM (#20434635)
Farmed insects live their full lifespan as opposed to larger animals which only live around ten percent on average.

I personally do not advocate anyone to eat plant-based meats because of the harmful effects on health (this coming anecdotally from myself after eating them for 2+ years). The phytates in almost all grains / legumes / beans bind to almost all free zinc copper and iron which has a very negative effect on health.

Insects (similar to ruminants) are able to naturally assimilate the high protein foods and filter out the phytates. Eating a half-pound per day of insects helped me to greatly recover my health after following a vegan diet for almost three years.

Re:Insects feel persistent pain after injury, evidence suggests by swebs on Sunday July 14, 2019 @09:58AM (#20433398)
That makes the silly assumption that all organisms are equal. I'm sure we can all agree that a human's life is more valuable than a bacterium's. Or else you'd have to admit to genocide every time you use hand sanitizer.
Re:Insects feel persistent pain after injury, evidence suggests by GordonS on Sunday July 14, 2019 @10:21AM (#20433529)
It's an interesting point though - if we remove human life from the equation, how do you define the "value" of an animal or insect life?

It will even vary from culture to culture; for example, cows are revered in much of India, and in much of the west we seem to place more value on values we perceive as "cute", such as dolphins, or "magnificent", such as whales.

Re:Insects feel persistent pain after injury, evidence suggests by linnaeus on Sunday July 14, 2019 @10:39AM (#20433642)
> That makes the silly assumption that all organisms are equal

Where does it do that?

Re:Insects feel persistent pain after injury, evidence suggests by DKnoll on Sunday July 14, 2019 @04:11AM (#20432342)
There are 'humane' electric shock machines available for crabs. They supposedly cause instant painless death. Obviously the size would make it impossible to use the same machine but maybe something similar.

http://www.polar-systems.co.uk/industries-applications/seafo...

Re:Insects feel persistent pain after injury, evidence suggests by SargeZT on Sunday July 14, 2019 @05:11AM (#20432507)
Just spitballing here, but two plates with a significant high voltage charge difference lowered to the level of the insects would seem to fit the bill.
Re:Insects feel persistent pain after injury, evidence suggests by easytiger on Sunday July 14, 2019 @06:06AM (#20432663)
What about every motor vehicle, horse and cart journey ever taken killing insects is that inhumane? Those have killed trillions of insects.
Re:Insects feel persistent pain after injury, evidence suggests by kieukkieuk on Sunday July 14, 2019 @07:41AM (#20432913)
Probably still orders of magnitude less than the number that would be killed in insectivorous agriculture.