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Re:Older Americans are alone half their waking hours, on ave... by munificent on Friday July 12, 2019 @01:11PM (#20422324)
I think I'm in a similar state as you. I loved living alone. Then I got married and had kids, so now I have three roommates, two of which frequently need interaction/help/etc. I crave solitude. The most blissful vacation I can imagine is just being alone in a cabin on a lake sitting coffee and reading. I spent two days driving to see the 2016 eclipse and living in my truck alone and it was absolute bliss.

At the same time, I find it easy to project that desire too far. I get less solitude than I would like now, so I feel that need, but I definitely don't want infinite solitude. While I liked living alone, I also remember getting quite lonely at times. It's easy for me to take for granted my social needs because they are being (more than) met right now.

One thing I do find a real challenge is a life that feels both socially full and shallow. With all of the tasks of being a full-time employee and parent today, my social calendar fills up quickly. I can really only see a couple of people a week. Kid birthday parties and other events like that overwhelm it. Because my kids are constantly making new friends, there is this parade of parents that enter and recede from my life. They're all nice people, but over time it gets harder to invest effort into friendship with them because I only see any given one of them every couple of months and even that may fade if our kids stop being friends. Not quite the "single serving friends" of Fight Club, but close.

At the same time, it's hard for me to maintain my own independent friendships on top of those acquaintances because there just isn't that much time. If I've already got a birthday party on Saturday and a playdate on Sunday, it's really hard to enjoy another social activity with my own friends on top of that. Even with people I consider close friends, I sometimes only see them once every couple of months.

I try to be mindful that this phase won't last forever. As my kids get older, they'll do more drop-off parties and eventually will get to their own social functions without me at all. They'll want less of my time until one day I'll wake up and the nest will be empty. I try to enjoy this time for what it is while it lasts.

My biggest worry is that by the time the kids are older and I have more room for my own close friends, those bonds will have withered along with my skills at socializing and I'll fail to reinvigorate them.

Re:Older Americans are alone half their waking hours, on ave... by stirfrykitty on Friday July 12, 2019 @01:21PM (#20422415)
That was a fantastic post. I feel exactly the same way.

My kids sometimes feel too needy. Oftentimes I never get the desired downtime.

My wife got mad at me one day and said "You need to listen to Harry Chapin's Cat's in the Cradle. Then come talk with me." It's a shock to listen to that song, because it's true. It would be easy to end up like that and no one want it.

Re:Older Americans are alone half their waking hours, on ave... by jbattle on Friday July 12, 2019 @01:44PM (#20422660)
I've always thought the best thing would be to have a time-travel machine. You could spend a day with your kids as infants and enjoy it. The next day you could spend with them as teens and enjoy it. Then the third day spend with them as 11 year-olds and enjoy it.

Each of those ages are incredible and filled with irreplaceable experiences. It's easy to get jaded when you move through them so slowly.

Re:Older Americans are alone half their waking hours, on ave... by munificent on Friday July 12, 2019 @05:21PM (#20424639)
What I wouldn't give to be able to bank days for my future self.

"You know, I feel like having a me day. I'll hand this one off to 60-year-old me."

My 60-year-old self magically time travels in and has a blast with the kids he hasn't seen as children in decades. Meanwhile I get to relax. Then, twenty years from now, when the nest is cold and empty, the memories of my kids' childhood is fading, and I long to feel their little arms wrapped around me, I get zipped back in time to live a whole day of it afresh.

They say youth is wasted on the young. Sometimes it feels like parenting is wasted on young parents too.

Re:Older Americans are alone half their waking hours, on ave... by munificent on Friday July 12, 2019 @05:19PM (#20424618)
Ha, I think about that song easily once every couple of months.

It's a very challenging balancing act especially in today's America which expects parents to spend tons of time with their kids.

Re:Older Americans are alone half their waking hours, on ave... by smegger001 on Saturday July 13, 2019 @12:18AM (#20426477)
Yeah both parents have to work 40 hours plus, maintain a home, eat at least one sit down meal together, spend time with children, time with each other to maintain a relationship. I as introvert have no time for being alone. And I need that. I try to walk to and from work as often as possible now just so I can have a quiet 20 minutes to myself with no demands or obligations on me. I find myself staying up late just to have it quiet.
Re:Older Americans are alone half their waking hours, on ave... by kaybe on Friday July 12, 2019 @08:58PM (#20425842)
I'm not sure how this works - do you have to be there for the birthday party and playdate too?