Bankrupt Maker Faire revives, reduced to Make Community

Re:Bankrupt Maker Faire revives, reduced to Make Community by KirinDave on Thursday July 11, 2019 @10:58AM (#20412003)

I've actually helped run a woodshop for a school as part of volunteer work back before I had a kid. It's a huge amount of work. Even if we pretend the machines are cheap (they aren't), then we're still talking about setting up a space that's safe to work in, cleaning it, maintaining the machines, properly powering them (if you get more than a few industrial machines your power provider will want to charge you differently because they consume power differently).

Even just a few desktop fabrication things are a lot of work to own and maintain. It's really, really nice to have a space you can go, do work, and then enjoy that without the cleanup and maintenance.

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Re:Bankrupt Maker Faire revives, reduced to Make Community by marcinzm on Thursday July 11, 2019 @11:13AM (#20412137)

A basic table saw is $200 on Amazon, a miter saw is $200, drill press is $200, a planer is $500 but there's hand tools for that, etc. Low end but they'll work. Biggest expense would be dust filtration system if you don't want to vacuum constantly. There's probably more people with garage wood shops in the US than makers.

You keep assuming that you need industrial machines that can be used 24/7 to do these things when in reality you don't. You can use hand tools even but those take more time.

>I've actually helped run a woodshop for a school as part of volunteer work back before I had a kid.

I'd call that a professional space since it's used most of the time rather than occasionally.

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Re:Bankrupt Maker Faire revives, reduced to Make Community by KirinDave on Thursday July 11, 2019 @11:17AM (#20412174)

> A basic table saw is $200 on Amazon, a miter saw is $200, drill press is $200, a planer is $500 but there's hand tools for that, etc. Low end but they'll work. Biggest expense would be dust filtration system if you don't want to vacuum constantly. There's probably more people with garage wood shops in the US than makers.

There's people with little baby jigsaws and a circular saw. Folks with actual lathes, CNC routers that could handle hardwood, actual band saws or full sized table saws? Not so much.

> You keep assuming that you need industrial machines that can be used 24/7 to do these things when in reality you don't. You can use hand tools even but those take more time.

No, I don't. A school shop maybe runs the machines for a few hours every other day. It's still expensive.

> I'd call that a professional space since it's used most of the time rather than occasionally.

Okay, well I'd call "$200 on Amazon, a miter saw is $200, drill press is $200, a planer is $500" a professional budget to most people in America, so let's call it even?

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Re:Bankrupt Maker Faire revives, reduced to Make Community by blacksmythe on Friday July 12, 2019 @12:38AM (#20418214)

"Table saws in use in the United States: Estimates range between 6 million and 10 million... in any particular year, about one table saw in 229 will be in an accident that sends someone to the emergency room." https://www.popularwoodworking.com/article/table-saw-injury-...

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Re:Bankrupt Maker Faire revives, reduced to Make Community by Animats on Friday July 12, 2019 @01:29PM (#20422487)

TechShop had the sense to use only SawStop saws.

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Re:Bankrupt Maker Faire revives, reduced to Make Community by KirinDave on Friday July 12, 2019 @01:45PM (#20422672)

What is this comment meant to imply?

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