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Re:Cars took over because the legal system helped squeezed o... by lmilcin on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @06:56AM (#20400775)
I agree completely.

After watching hundreds or even thousands of accidents on Youtube it could be said that there typically are two parties that could be blamed for the accident. One is officially at fault but there typically is somebody else who did not pay enough attention or did not slow down at intersection or did not do one of the many things that careful drivers would be expected to do.

Drivers (or pedestrians) with certain attitude that I would describe as expecting everybody to follow the rules but at the same following the rules only selectively and not giving anybody any margin for error are people that I think cause most of accidents.

Everybody makes mistakes and it is in human nature to miss a sign or occasionally misplace attention for a second or two. If everybody was driving defensively most of the time it would take two people to make a mistake at the same time which would cause accidents to be very rare. On the other hand if drivers give no margin for error it only takes a single person to make a mistake.

I have an uncle who thinks he is a good driver. Yes, he can drive fast, precisely, he knows rules and knows how to not be the driver at fault. But while he is not officially causing accidents over the last decade he took part in around a dozen accidents. He is not giving anybody any margin for error and this attitude is what I think is more damaging than people that make mistake from time to time.

Re:Cars took over because the legal system helped squeezed o... by VBprogrammer on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @07:46AM (#20401013)
An interesting concept in this area is the naked streets concept, where by the streets are stripped of the usual trappings of lights, signs and lane markings.

Since no one then feels like they are just "in the right" everyone tends to be much more attentive.

https://www.pps.org/article/hans-monderman

Re:Cars took over because the legal system helped squeezed o... by lmilcin on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @09:50AM (#20401900)
This is, unfortunately, incorrect.

The reason the number of accidents got suddenly smaller is because people were used to markings but then they had to re-learn how to function when the markings were removed. When you learn to drive or when you are in unfamiliar place you tend to drive slower and be more attentive.

But this is only temporary effect. After some time people adjust and same problems show up.

Still not convinced? What about south asian countries which tend to have little in the way of traffic signs? If lack of markings makes people behave more carefully how do you explain relative lack of safety in countries like Vietnam, Thailand, etc?