Re:Former top executives of France Télécom on trial for hara...
by karlp on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @04:42AM
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Someone committed suicide by hanging themself with an ethernet cable, it wasn't an "artifact"
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Re:Former top executives of France Télécom on trial for hara...
by praptak on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @10:12AM
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I am not saying it was, just that doubling of the rate means little by itself.
If the suicide rate is 17 per 22000, then natural variance alone will push about 14% of random 22k samples into "more than double the base rate" area.
In other words, if you take this indicator alone, then you'll have a false positive about 14% of the time. Obviously, the key word is "alone". With more data about bullying as the cause of suicide you might get better estimations.
Re:Former top executives of France Télécom on trial for hara...
by liberte82 on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @11:34AM
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> natural variance alone will push about 14% of random 22k samples into "more than double the base rate" area.
Is this true? Can you show the math on this? I'm not seeing it.
Re:Former top executives of France Télécom on trial for hara...
by praptak on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @01:48PM
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Nevermind, I made a mistake in my original calculations - used variance instead of standard deviation.
Actually (from approximating the binomial distribution with n=22k and p=17/22000 with normal one) getting the rate over 30 per 22k has p<0.001.
Re:Former top executives of France Télécom on trial for hara...
by boohoojangles on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @09:34AM
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"Rémy set himself on fire in 2011 in front of a France Télécom office near Bordeaux"
GP doesn't seem to have read the article and is throwing some statistics gimmicks.