Re:The Gravity of a Photon
by JWKennington on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @01:44AM
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Hence I said my friend was being a bit “interpretive”. He really meant that though photons have zero rest mass, they nonzero inertial mass (E=mc^2)
Re:The Gravity of a Photon
by typothrowaway on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @02:05AM
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That still does not make any sense. I'm sorry to be so direct, but I'm really worried laypeople here are going to think that this is correct.
Re:The Gravity of a Photon
by JWKennington on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @10:22AM
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Photons have momentum. momentum is analogous to mass in special relativity (specifically, mass is the 0 component of the four-momentum)
That's not how it's written in the post though. If you just swap out the "inertial mass" at the end and the "rest energy" somewhere in the middle it makes more sense:
> because photons have rest energy (=> kinetic energy) that can be viewed as mass in special relativity > [...] > impact the gravitational field despite having no inertial mass (=> rest mass)!
Speaking of "mass" in context of relativity is always a bit tricky. The term "inertial mass" for example is really saying something about how an object behaves under the influence of a force (F = ma), not how it behaves relativistically (that would be "relativistic mass", E = mc2).
Re:The Gravity of a Photon
by JWKennington on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @10:24AM
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I've cleaned up the last paragraph, and replaced my friend's reasoning with the term "momentum" to avoid confusion. thanks for feedback
Maybe you could write “because photons have energy that can be viewed as (relativistic) mass” then. Or maybe he did really refer to the “rest energy” of photons? That seems weird even for an experimentalist ;-)
Re:The Gravity of a Photon
by JWKennington on Wednesday July 10, 2019 @10:23AM
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It was weird - I've reparaphrased that to be "momentum" now for improved clarity. thanks for feedback
What?