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Re:U.S. has its wettest 12 months on record again by chrisco255 on Tuesday July 09, 2019 @06:16PM (#20397242)
Sure, but those supercomputers aren't autonomous, they're programmed and designed by thousands of human adult experts.
Re:U.S. has its wettest 12 months on record again by Theodores on Tuesday July 09, 2019 @06:58PM (#20397598)
"Thousands" is true, but, in the specific domain of modelling the climate there are not that many people doing it.

Weather forecasting is more about interpreting the results than writing the code for the model, and, realistically there are only the British and American weather supercomputers. Everyone else is borrowing the GRIB data and then doing their own interpretations.

As for that interpretation, a surprising amount of forecasters operate much like how gamblers work.

Think of a horse racing scene, the horses and the riders have form, i.e. how they have performed in the past. Then there is the course, this may or may not suit a given horse/rider combo. Weather, time of day and other factors come into it. Not to mention the prize money and the competition.

A gambler looks at the form, the weather and works with their niche of specialist knowledge, similar with weather forecasting.

The 'bet' might be what the weather is going to be in Dudley tomorrow or in Barnstaple, or anywhere else. The goal of the forecaster is to get it right. The observations are the key to it and the GRIB forecast data is not to be considered strictly accurate. Even if it is accurate it still needs interpretation. Even with the data and an eye on the metosat images it is incredibly hard to get the likelihood of rain right.

Sometimes a step outside is needed too - with a local forecast.

The resolution of the GRIB is not that good, so if you have a town at the foot of a mountain and next to a lake, it might not have a realistic prediction. The GRIB data might be for the top of the mountain or the middle of the lake. You need an expert to actually do an educated guess as to what temperature it will be there in the morning.

Forecasters actually understand some things that are going on in the now, so a storm off Africa that goes across to the U.S seaboard as some tropical storm will come back across to the British Isles as rain. Forecasters don't tell you that there is a queue of storms heading across the Atlantic on the way to the U.S. and inevitably going to bring rain to the UK after that. But that information could inform your holiday plans for a few weeks ahead. The computer and the meteosat images might show all this but they won't interpret it for you.

Then, when you get down to it, forecasting can often be done with horse betting mentality, like a gambling addiction.

What would be cool is to have a consumer grade version of the software the weather forecasters use, where you can go forward and back in time layering up different types of data at different altitudes. But weather forecasting is like its own magic circle and it would be betrayal of sorts to share the tricks and the props with the audience.

Re:U.S. has its wettest 12 months on record again by 6d6b73 on Tuesday July 09, 2019 @06:20PM (#20397272)
And these people can make mistakes or be biased. If we can't predict what the weather in our hometowns will be how can we predict how will the climate change?
Re:U.S. has its wettest 12 months on record again by conception on Tuesday July 09, 2019 @06:25PM (#20397325)
You can't predict where a bubble will form when boiling water, but you can predict that the pot will get to over 100C.
Re:U.S. has its wettest 12 months on record again by 6d6b73 on Tuesday July 09, 2019 @07:01PM (#20397628)
But doesn't that depend on how large is the pot and how much energy you're putting into boiling it? Not to mention that you also need to know the environment in the which you're trying to boil the water. If you're trying to boil the water in the middle of arctic winter, can you predict that the pot will get to over 100C if you're using just a small camping stove? :)
Re:U.S. has its wettest 12 months on record again by fwip on Tuesday July 09, 2019 @06:26PM (#20397330)
If you drop a glass full of water, I can't predict the exact splash pattern. But I can sure tell you the floor's gonna get wet.