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Re:The AMD 3rd Gen Ryzen Deep Dive Review: 3700X and 3900X R... by beatgammit on Sunday July 07, 2019 @10:57AM (#20375396)
Single threaded performance isn't really that interesting anymore except for some specific gaming benchmarks, and even in gaming, you're unlikely to be bottlenecked by single threaded performance (though memory latency could be an issue).
Re:The AMD 3rd Gen Ryzen Deep Dive Review: 3700X and 3900X R... by neogodless on Sunday July 07, 2019 @11:23AM (#20375526)
I agree. Just answering the question in the thread!
Re:The AMD 3rd Gen Ryzen Deep Dive Review: 3700X and 3900X R... by polskibus on Sunday July 07, 2019 @11:06AM (#20375443)
It is still important in compilation. That means it affect developers work many many times per day.
Re:The AMD 3rd Gen Ryzen Deep Dive Review: 3700X and 3900X R... by jandrese on Sunday July 07, 2019 @12:09PM (#20375777)
Compiling has generally been easier to parallelize I thought? Using make -j<whatever> has been around for a long time. If you're only compiling one file then it's harder to get an improvement, but a single file should be quick anyway so there's not a huge need to speed it up. It's not like you're doing something silly and including boost are you?
Re:The AMD 3rd Gen Ryzen Deep Dive Review: 3700X and 3900X R... by polskibus on Sunday July 07, 2019 @01:05PM (#20376157)
In large projects, that are multiple dependency chains, that cannot be fully parallelized. There's a critical, often a bit long path, for which single threaded is still very important. Another thing is that various platforms like nodejs, etc. may not be able to utilize parallelism much, adding to the ST importance.
Re:The AMD 3rd Gen Ryzen Deep Dive Review: 3700X and 3900X R... by MikusR on Sunday July 07, 2019 @11:32AM (#20375583)
Web browsing is still single threaded. Games still have a very busy main thread.
Re:The AMD 3rd Gen Ryzen Deep Dive Review: 3700X and 3900X R... by hajile on Sunday July 07, 2019 @08:31PM (#20378978)
1 UI thread !== only 1 thread

Firefox and chrome use a half-dozen or so threads parsing and compiling JS code so it loads quickly. Firefox's Quantum work adds a lot of threads for rendering as well. In addition, service workers, web workers, and Wasm all spawn additional processes which serve the same purpose if you aren't sharing memory directly.

That said, the Phoronix Selenium tests show AMD ahead by quite a bit. (source)[https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ryzen-37...]

Re:The AMD 3rd Gen Ryzen Deep Dive Review: 3700X and 3900X R... by MikusR on Monday July 08, 2019 @06:33PM (#20387373)
So Servo is just snake-oil?
Re:The AMD 3rd Gen Ryzen Deep Dive Review: 3700X and 3900X R... by hajile on Monday July 08, 2019 @08:11PM (#20387910)
Firefox's quantum work comes from their servo work, so I'd say it's been valuable.
Re:The AMD 3rd Gen Ryzen Deep Dive Review: 3700X and 3900X R... by trynumber9 on Sunday July 07, 2019 @07:02PM (#20378566)
Firefox Kraken is faster on the 3700X, for example. It'll come down more to which browser you use than the processor.
Re:The AMD 3rd Gen Ryzen Deep Dive Review: 3700X and 3900X R... by hyperbovine on Sunday July 07, 2019 @01:07PM (#20376173)
> Web browsing is still single threaded.

Only in the narrow sense that processes are not threads. See `Window > Task Manager` in Chrome.