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Re:Debian 10 “Buster” Released by phosphophyllite on Sunday July 07, 2019 @04:23AM (#20374113)
1. Mac OS somehow achieved exactly this. 2. Actually no-changes and no-brainers are bad for mental health of elderly. In that age brain needs training.
Re:Debian 10 “Buster” Released by ris on Sunday July 07, 2019 @08:55AM (#20374852)
> 1. Mac OS somehow achieved exactly this.

You're right - that's why macos definitely hasn't spawned suspiciously debian-like package managers in an attempt to handle all these problems.

And if we're talking about "app bundles", if you dig a bit deeper you'll find most of these applications which "just work" just bundle all of their dependency libs. God knows if they bother to update them or do a security release if vulnerabilities are found in their bundled libs!

Re:Debian 10 “Buster” Released by phosphophyllite on Sunday July 07, 2019 @09:56AM (#20375078)
> bundle all of their dependency libs

Mother of God! Very popular argument. No one cares (in terms of architecture).

> vulnerabilities are found in their bundled libs!

Yes, god only knows how entire install base of mac and windows machines works today (this problem is not as big as you try to present here).

Your arguments like debate about linux monolithic and minix micro kernel architecture. Minix is more advanced in theory, linux (not linux desktop) working in reality.

Re:Debian 10 “Buster” Released by ris on Sunday July 07, 2019 @11:48AM (#20375657)
> god only knows how entire install base of mac and windows machines works today

The issue being that, for a lot of people, they often work a little too well.

If you're going to follow the philosophy that caring about the correctness, lack of duplication and security of an installed application is too esoteric to be relevant, I'll remind you that you're entirely free to do that to any extent you like with linux. Equally people like me are free to tell people who do that that they will receive no support from me for such a setup.

Re:Debian 10 “Buster” Released by lolc on Sunday July 07, 2019 @06:19AM (#20374424)
Yeah retirement home staff is going to switch my shell every week so I stay alert!

If the only thing keeping me cognitively engaged in old age will be UI changes, I might as well die.

Re:Debian 10 “Buster” Released by dash2 on Sunday July 07, 2019 @05:47AM (#20374348)
Tell that to my Dad when he can't access his email because they tweaked the UI yet again.